DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the most Stockholm Syndrome group of people I have seen in my life.

Let’s attack the source instead of determining how DCUA can take steps to improve their academy system.

Fuc&…I guess I would rather send my kids away than to be in the field of offspring of this parenting.

DCU can't getting better. They are BROKE. At least broke with respect to the academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the most Stockholm Syndrome group of people I have seen in my life.

Let’s attack the source instead of determining how DCUA can take steps to improve their academy system.

Fuc&…I guess I would rather send my kids away than to be in the field of offspring of this parenting.

How should we treat people who keep repeating the same thing at nauseum?

Especially when they are asking how DCUA can take steps to improve, when DCUA has taken and is taking steps to improve.

Makes it seems they are just emotionally biased with a one-track jaded obsession, no?

What is the same thing getting repeated,?? I missed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the most Stockholm Syndrome group of people I have seen in my life.

Let’s attack the source instead of determining how DCUA can take steps to improve their academy system.

Fuc&…I guess I would rather send my kids away than to be in the field of offspring of this parenting.

DCU can't getting better. They are BROKE. At least broke with respect to the academy.

You have a link to the academy budget and expenditure?

or you're just an empty vessel shouting because the platform doesn't filter for intelligence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the most Stockholm Syndrome group of people I have seen in my life.

Let’s attack the source instead of determining how DCUA can take steps to improve their academy system.

Fuc&…I guess I would rather send my kids away than to be in the field of offspring of this parenting.

DCU can't getting better. They are BROKE. At least broke with respect to the academy.

You have a link to the academy budget and expenditure?

or you're just an empty vessel shouting because the platform doesn't filter for intelligence?

Do you have it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the most Stockholm Syndrome group of people I have seen in my life.

Let’s attack the source instead of determining how DCUA can take steps to improve their academy system.

Fuc&…I guess I would rather send my kids away than to be in the field of offspring of this parenting.

DCU can't getting better. They are BROKE. At least broke with respect to the academy.

You have a link to the academy budget and expenditure?

or you're just an empty vessel shouting because the platform doesn't filter for intelligence?

If you need budget and expenditure info for something you can plainly see, you might not be as smart as you think you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Caught this via the Philly Union IG feed.

We are ranked #21.

Feels objective and accurate.

Yup. 21 out of 26 is totally fair. Could easily be lower on the list. Definitely not higher. DCU doesn't deserve to be a top rated academy on any list and you won't seem them as a top rated academy on any lists anywhere. But you also have to take this guys opinion with a grain of salt.

He isn't a soccer expert but follows the kids and academies closely because he tries to monetize being in the know. To me, he's a big fan of the game but lacks the real football credentials or expertise to be taking his word as bond. Calling himself a soccer scout is a complete joke.

But some of what he says is spot on. Not everything. But some. And how he ranks the kids or the "prospects" in the academy is also very questionable. Parents manipulate him to get kids higher on the lists or even on the list. He is a tool alot of people use for IG exposure because he is easily manipulated. You think he has personally seen all of these kids and academies?? No chance. He gets his info from parents and thousands of parents send him clips of their kids. Only the good clips of course. Because he built this platform, and parents realized he could be used, they of course started to manipulate him. And this will continue. One thing is for certain USSF doesn't pay attention to him or make any decisions from his lists. They are literally just click bait and that is all.

I wouldn't say his info comes from parents, nor is he influenced by them. He's pretty tied in with the scouts from academy teams, from where he gets all his info from. Scouts have player profiles for every kid on their team and their respective rankings within their academy. His main income is from evaluating players that are trying to break into the academy world, creating highlights, and setting up trials for them at targeted academy teams. His fees are pretty high from what I hear.

Dubious about his alleged massive detailed objective database on hundreds of individual players across the country.

Not only is this saying he has every MLS academy feeding him detailed profile compositions, performance and individual development plans for every player (beyond highly suspect), you're also claiming parents of young high level players are paying him to do what any and every parent can do.
Which is present their son for evaluation.

I'm with the previous PP
Runs a social media platform for hype and clickbait with information easily available from the group chats of kids

I don't understand what's hard to believe. Every academy keeps a player profile of their kids, and those profiles are shared amongst scouts as needed. Trades, transfers, etc. It's not one centralized database containing this info. Are you saying academy teams don't keep track of it's players that they are investing in?

And yes, parents ARE paying him for his services. I only got familiar with him because an acquaintance used him to get their son placed on a top academy team. Check his site for testimonials, don't take my word for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Caught this via the Philly Union IG feed.

We are ranked #21.

Feels objective and accurate.

Yup. 21 out of 26 is totally fair. Could easily be lower on the list. Definitely not higher. DCU doesn't deserve to be a top rated academy on any list and you won't seem them as a top rated academy on any lists anywhere. But you also have to take this guys opinion with a grain of salt.

He isn't a soccer expert but follows the kids and academies closely because he tries to monetize being in the know. To me, he's a big fan of the game but lacks the real football credentials or expertise to be taking his word as bond. Calling himself a soccer scout is a complete joke.

But some of what he says is spot on. Not everything. But some. And how he ranks the kids or the "prospects" in the academy is also very questionable. Parents manipulate him to get kids higher on the lists or even on the list. He is a tool alot of people use for IG exposure because he is easily manipulated. You think he has personally seen all of these kids and academies?? No chance. He gets his info from parents and thousands of parents send him clips of their kids. Only the good clips of course. Because he built this platform, and parents realized he could be used, they of course started to manipulate him. And this will continue. One thing is for certain USSF doesn't pay attention to him or make any decisions from his lists. They are literally just click bait and that is all.

I wouldn't say his info comes from parents, nor is he influenced by them. He's pretty tied in with the scouts from academy teams, from where he gets all his info from. Scouts have player profiles for every kid on their team and their respective rankings within their academy. His main income is from evaluating players that are trying to break into the academy world, creating highlights, and setting up trials for them at targeted academy teams. His fees are pretty high from what I hear.

Dubious about his alleged massive detailed objective database on hundreds of individual players across the country.

Not only is this saying he has every MLS academy feeding him detailed profile compositions, performance and individual development plans for every player (beyond highly suspect), you're also claiming parents of young high level players are paying him to do what any and every parent can do.
Which is present their son for evaluation.

I'm with the previous PP
Runs a social media platform for hype and clickbait with information easily available from the group chats of kids

I don't understand what's hard to believe. Every academy keeps a player profile of their kids, and those profiles are shared amongst scouts as needed. Trades, transfers, etc. It's not one centralized database containing this info. Are you saying academy teams don't keep track of it's players that they are investing in?

And yes, parents ARE paying him for his services. I only got familiar with him because an acquaintance used him to get their son placed on a top academy team. Check his site for testimonials, don't take my word for it.

Are you by any chance 'him?

So this imaginary network of scouts constantly feeding him detailed information about every academy player in the country, are they doing it electronically or passing secret notes like Cold War spies?

The odds of this guy getting this information you speak of is a fantastic tale at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Caught this via the Philly Union IG feed.

We are ranked #21.

Feels objective and accurate.

Yup. 21 out of 26 is totally fair. Could easily be lower on the list. Definitely not higher. DCU doesn't deserve to be a top rated academy on any list and you won't seem them as a top rated academy on any lists anywhere. But you also have to take this guys opinion with a grain of salt.

He isn't a soccer expert but follows the kids and academies closely because he tries to monetize being in the know. To me, he's a big fan of the game but lacks the real football credentials or expertise to be taking his word as bond. Calling himself a soccer scout is a complete joke.

But some of what he says is spot on. Not everything. But some. And how he ranks the kids or the "prospects" in the academy is also very questionable. Parents manipulate him to get kids higher on the lists or even on the list. He is a tool alot of people use for IG exposure because he is easily manipulated. You think he has personally seen all of these kids and academies?? No chance. He gets his info from parents and thousands of parents send him clips of their kids. Only the good clips of course. Because he built this platform, and parents realized he could be used, they of course started to manipulate him. And this will continue. One thing is for certain USSF doesn't pay attention to him or make any decisions from his lists. They are literally just click bait and that is all.

I wouldn't say his info comes from parents, nor is he influenced by them. He's pretty tied in with the scouts from academy teams, from where he gets all his info from. Scouts have player profiles for every kid on their team and their respective rankings within their academy. His main income is from evaluating players that are trying to break into the academy world, creating highlights, and setting up trials for them at targeted academy teams. His fees are pretty high from what I hear.

Parents are a MASSIVE part of it. Massive. They feed him info and he takes most of it blindly. How do you think he is getting clips of kids?? From the academies?? H#ll no. Look at his Twitter/x account and see how many player clips he has. Almost all parents.

Yes, he does know some academy scouts for sure. But so do alot of people.. and yes, because he is a hype reel person, he of course hypes up people who pay him. Obviously. It's all a game. He is one person that is manipulated that is only somewhat influential online. US soccer gives no sh#ts about his opinion. He has literally no soccer credentials or experience. Just a guy who saw an opportunity to try and monetize parents desire to give their kids more visibility online. Not hating but call a spade a spade. His site is not BS but it is probably half legit, a quarter paid advertising and a quarter parents sending him info on their own to try and get their kids online exposure to increase SEO on their kids name and soccer resume.

Accurate truth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Caught this via the Philly Union IG feed.

We are ranked #21.

Feels objective and accurate.

Yup. 21 out of 26 is totally fair. Could easily be lower on the list. Definitely not higher. DCU doesn't deserve to be a top rated academy on any list and you won't seem them as a top rated academy on any lists anywhere. But you also have to take this guys opinion with a grain of salt.

He isn't a soccer expert but follows the kids and academies closely because he tries to monetize being in the know. To me, he's a big fan of the game but lacks the real football credentials or expertise to be taking his word as bond. Calling himself a soccer scout is a complete joke.

But some of what he says is spot on. Not everything. But some. And how he ranks the kids or the "prospects" in the academy is also very questionable. Parents manipulate him to get kids higher on the lists or even on the list. He is a tool alot of people use for IG exposure because he is easily manipulated. You think he has personally seen all of these kids and academies?? No chance. He gets his info from parents and thousands of parents send him clips of their kids. Only the good clips of course. Because he built this platform, and parents realized he could be used, they of course started to manipulate him. And this will continue. One thing is for certain USSF doesn't pay attention to him or make any decisions from his lists. They are literally just click bait and that is all.

I wouldn't say his info comes from parents, nor is he influenced by them. He's pretty tied in with the scouts from academy teams, from where he gets all his info from. Scouts have player profiles for every kid on their team and their respective rankings within their academy. His main income is from evaluating players that are trying to break into the academy world, creating highlights, and setting up trials for them at targeted academy teams. His fees are pretty high from what I hear.

Dubious about his alleged massive detailed objective database on hundreds of individual players across the country.

Not only is this saying he has every MLS academy feeding him detailed profile compositions, performance and individual development plans for every player (beyond highly suspect), you're also claiming parents of young high level players are paying him to do what any and every parent can do.
Which is present their son for evaluation.

I'm with the previous PP
Runs a social media platform for hype and clickbait with information easily available from the group chats of kids

I don't understand what's hard to believe. Every academy keeps a player profile of their kids, and those profiles are shared amongst scouts as needed. Trades, transfers, etc. It's not one centralized database containing this info. Are you saying academy teams don't keep track of it's players that they are investing in?

And yes, parents ARE paying him for his services. I only got familiar with him because an acquaintance used him to get their son placed on a top academy team. Check his site for testimonials, don't take my word for it.

Are you by any chance 'him?

So this imaginary network of scouts constantly feeding him detailed information about every academy player in the country, are they doing it electronically or passing secret notes like Cold War spies?

The odds of this guy getting this information you speak of is a fantastic tale at best.

Why yes I am. I've talked to numerous academy scouts. Have you?

[Anonymous]

I don’t know much about him but I know this. People are hesitant to recommend players unless the player will hold up. If the players don’t, the scout loses their reputation.

Yes, it appears from his own site he receives “full game film” from parents which is standard vs highlights.

He has ranked kids with zero IG presence so I actually respect the gig. The kid and parents are simply putting in the work which is very far from the IG thirsty mob I am accustomed to locally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know much about him but I know this. People are hesitant to recommend players unless the player will hold up. If the players don’t, the scout loses their reputation.

Yes, it appears from his own site he receives “full game film” from parents which is standard vs highlights.

He has ranked kids with zero IG presence so I actually respect the gig. The kid and parents are simply putting in the work which is very far from the IG thirsty mob I am accustomed to locally.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But if you think he is watching full game film of all the age groups in the youth pool with his time you're crazy. There is no money in that. He posts highlight reels that either he makes because he is getting paid to do so or that parents send him, pre made. Period.

What most people don't know is that he keeps a database of the players that he knows (anyone that has contacted him whether they like it or not) and he in fact SELLS access to that database to agents and scouts. Find that on his website?? Yeah, definitely not. Because he doesn't want people to know that because they might not engage with him as freely. It's all very shady and to me is a real dark side of soccer in this country.

The reality is that there are very few people out here doing what he is doing. His problem is that he isnt credible in the soccer world. He is basically a guy that one day said I'm going to start blogging about soccer and the youth pool, and just did it and gained a following. He has built a few connections with clubs over time and for the clubs, dealing with him is a no brainer. He does work for them for free. Meaning talent id. They don't lose anything by dealing with him but they could genuinely gain something if a player works out.

To me, he promulgates a culture based on constantly trying to out hype the next person and this is killing the sport in this country in my opinion. Couple that with the fact that his analysis and rating of players is basically based on pure size because he doesn't have enough experience in the sport to really know how to identify a future pro This guy ranks players and has players that are playing professionally already listed as having less potential to be a pro (remember, they are already pros) than academy players that he clearly works with. His player rankings are literally a joke. Mostly manipulated lists from people that pay him with some familiar names thrown in for a facade of legitimacy.

Sites like his are a big reason why soccer is failing in this country. People who don't know sh#t about the sport acting like they do, and preying on even less knowledgeable parents for money. Sound familiar (pay to play clubs).

[Anonymous]

DCU is trash because MLSN is more interested in capturing the market with crap teams than paying to make the local top team compete with academy teams. Until that happens, the whole system is a farce. Capture lots of teams with no inclination to capturing the best teams. MLSN is a joke, if they keep up this direction then ECNL will be the main feeder team and MLSN1, 2 and or 3 is meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCU is trash because MLSN is more interested in capturing the market with crap teams than paying to make the local top team compete with academy teams. Until that happens, the whole system is a farce. Capture lots of teams with no inclination to capturing the best teams. MLSN is a joke, if they keep up this direction then ECNL will be the main feeder team and MLSN1, 2 and or 3 is meaningless.

DCUs status as a crap academy has almost nothing to do with MLS Next. MLS Next is only about controlling the player pool. That is all. Whether the local clubs are good or not is irrelevant. It is the acsemy's responsibility to develop the kids not the league they play in. Playing games is certainly part of development but it is only one part. MLS paying for the local clubs to be better is absurd. However, the concept of MLS having a role in making sure the academy teams have good competition week in and week out is a legit subject. I would make a select team from the local teams and have them compete every month. Players rotate in and out of the select team based on scouting and performance. This is helpful to the clubs and the MLS academy. One gets to showcase kids, the other gets to see talent more regularly for nothing.

ECNL will continue to fall lower in the youth soccer hierarchy. Just is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know much about him but I know this. People are hesitant to recommend players unless the player will hold up. If the players don’t, the scout loses their reputation.

Yes, it appears from his own site he receives “full game film” from parents which is standard vs highlights.

He has ranked kids with zero IG presence so I actually respect the gig. The kid and parents are simply putting in the work which is very far from the IG thirsty mob I am accustomed to locally.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But if you think he is watching full game film of all the age groups in the youth pool with his time you're crazy. There is no money in that. He posts highlight reels that either he makes because he is getting paid to do so or that parents send him, pre made. Period.

What most people don't know is that he keeps a database of the players that he knows (anyone that has contacted him whether they like it or not) and he in fact SELLS access to that database to agents and scouts. Find that on his website?? Yeah, definitely not. Because he doesn't want people to know that because they might not engage with him as freely. It's all very shady and to me is a real dark side of soccer in this country.

The reality is that there are very few people out here doing what he is doing. His problem is that he isnt credible in the soccer world. He is basically a guy that one day said I'm going to start blogging about soccer and the youth pool, and just did it and gained a following. He has built a few connections with clubs over time and for the clubs, dealing with him is a no brainer. He does work for them for free. Meaning talent id. They don't lose anything by dealing with him but they could genuinely gain something if a player works out.

To me, he promulgates a culture based on constantly trying to out hype the next person and this is killing the sport in this country in my opinion. Couple that with the fact that his analysis and rating of players is basically based on pure size because he doesn't have enough experience in the sport to really know how to identify a future pro This guy ranks players and has players that are playing professionally already listed as having less potential to be a pro (remember, they are already pros) than academy players that he clearly works with. His player rankings are literally a joke. Mostly manipulated lists from people that pay him with some familiar names thrown in for a facade of legitimacy.

Sites like his are a big reason why soccer is failing in this country. People who don't know sh#t about the sport acting like they do, and preying on even less knowledgeable parents for money. Sound familiar (pay to play clubs).

I appreciate the diatribe. But it all gets settled on the pitch right? If he is promoting kids who can’t play, and he refers a kid who paid him for promotion and the academy thinks the kid sucks, the academy will deem him unfit for future evaluations and his business would tank, no?

Isn’t that how a free market works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know much about him but I know this. People are hesitant to recommend players unless the player will hold up. If the players don’t, the scout loses their reputation.

Yes, it appears from his own site he receives “full game film” from parents which is standard vs highlights.

He has ranked kids with zero IG presence so I actually respect the gig. The kid and parents are simply putting in the work which is very far from the IG thirsty mob I am accustomed to locally.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But if you think he is watching full game film of all the age groups in the youth pool with his time you're crazy. There is no money in that. He posts highlight reels that either he makes because he is getting paid to do so or that parents send him, pre made. Period.

What most people don't know is that he keeps a database of the players that he knows (anyone that has contacted him whether they like it or not) and he in fact SELLS access to that database to agents and scouts. Find that on his website?? Yeah, definitely not. Because he doesn't want people to know that because they might not engage with him as freely. It's all very shady and to me is a real dark side of soccer in this country.

The reality is that there are very few people out here doing what he is doing. His problem is that he isnt credible in the soccer world. He is basically a guy that one day said I'm going to start blogging about soccer and the youth pool, and just did it and gained a following. He has built a few connections with clubs over time and for the clubs, dealing with him is a no brainer. He does work for them for free. Meaning talent id. They don't lose anything by dealing with him but they could genuinely gain something if a player works out.

To me, he promulgates a culture based on constantly trying to out hype the next person and this is killing the sport in this country in my opinion. Couple that with the fact that his analysis and rating of players is basically based on pure size because he doesn't have enough experience in the sport to really know how to identify a future pro This guy ranks players and has players that are playing professionally already listed as having less potential to be a pro (remember, they are already pros) than academy players that he clearly works with. His player rankings are literally a joke. Mostly manipulated lists from people that pay him with some familiar names thrown in for a facade of legitimacy.

Sites like his are a big reason why soccer is failing in this country. People who don't know sh#t about the sport acting like they do, and preying on even less knowledgeable parents for money. Sound familiar (pay to play clubs).

I appreciate the diatribe. But it all gets settled on the pitch right? If he is promoting kids who can’t play, and he refers a kid who paid him for promotion and the academy thinks the kid sucks, the academy will deem him unfit for future evaluations and his business would tank, no?

Isn’t that how a free market works?

No . His business wouldn't tank because the clubs want the volume. It's not always about quality it is also about quantity. In a soccer system that fundamentally doesn't understand the sport at a high level, you can easily see how low quality players get through. Especially when people with means are paying for them to get looks.