I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed

[Anonymous]

Rock on, OP! I'm in the midst of renewing my CCW right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just for the life of me do not understand in a civilized society, why anyone needs to carry around a gun. It’s so stupid. I have never and will never and my life is perfect and never in danger. So moronic.

DC is no longer civilized. Enjoy your utopia. Hope nothing disturbs it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just for the life of me do not understand in a civilized society, why anyone needs to carry around a gun. It’s so stupid. I have never and will never and my life is perfect and never in danger. So moronic.

DC is no longer civilized. Enjoy your utopia. Hope nothing disturbs it.

NP... I've lived in DC for 15 years. Your comments are pure cringe. DC isn't Fallujah. I bet you've barely even stepped foot in DC

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Anonymous wrote:Won’t matter what data is produced, nti-gun stance will always be that guns are bad. Its why the administration wanted to not fund shooting or archery programs in schools.

If people take the time to learn about guns, and recognize that modern weapons can be safely handled, they don’t go boom on their own, then the emotional fear drains away.

That’s the power of education.

Guns are "bad" here in the US because they aren't well controlled. We have too many people getting guns who shouldn't have guns.

The problem is, every time people come up with schemes to “control” guns, it’s always about taking guns away from the people who aren’t criminals to begin with. It’s NEVER about removing guns from the people who are using them in crimes.

So to your point - the “solutions” that are always trotted out never address “controlling” the guns possessed by those people who shouldn’t have them. The answer is always taking guns away from the people who DO own them responsibly. Because THOSE people will comply with the law (up to a point….) and therefore the gun control law can be hailed as a success because the people who follow laws, followed the law. Well, duh…. But the criminals go on, undeterred by any law.

Lies. Common sense gun control doesn’t “take away guns” from anyone who shouldn’t have them.

Expanded mandatory universal background checks which includes any documented history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues
A persistent database tracking every gun transaction
Stop sale of military-patterned weapons like AR-15s
Stop sale of extended capacity magazines
Red flag laws
And there are many many more very reasonable and common-sense gun control proposals

None of those infringe on 2A or propose "taking away all guns from responsible gun owners"

Even the most cursory glance at anti-firearm organization websites discloses their ultimate goal of ending private firearm ownership, with the current agenda focused on destroying the firearm industry (which will pose sort of a quandary for law enforcement since that’s who supplies their guns) by making them liable for the criminal misbehavior of others, perverting longstanding jurisprudence in the US.

Punishing decent people and businesses for the predations of criminal psychopaths isn’t common sense; it’s nonsense.

None of these "punish decent people"

Expanded mandatory universal background checks which includes any documented history of mental illness, domestic violence, anger management issues
A persistent database tracking every gun transaction
Stop sale of military-patterned weapons like AR-15s
Stop sale of extended capacity magazines
Red flag laws
And there are many many more very reasonable and common-sense gun control proposals

There's absolutely no rational reason why we shouldn't be pursuing them

Doing this absolutely punishes decent people. Decent people like my son and daughter, both of whom would like to own the most common firearm in America (the AR15 rifle) when they are adults. Do you even realize how many AR15’s exist? Do you understand how many people you would turn into criminals by doing this? That’s a complete non-starter. If that’s what you consider a good idea, I’m not even interested in hearing anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:I just for the life of me do not understand in a civilized society, why anyone needs to carry around a gun. It’s so stupid. I have never and will never and my life is perfect and never in danger. So moronic.

DC is no longer civilized. Enjoy your utopia. Hope nothing disturbs it.

NP... I've lived in DC for 15 years. Your comments are pure cringe. DC isn't Fallujah. I bet you've barely even stepped foot in DC

Not yet. But who knows what happens. With what happened in Israel it's a wake up call. I was never into gun ownership, but this had given me a different perspective. I wonder how many innocent lives would have been saved had Israeli citizens had second amendment and practiced it. The fact that millions of military age men had already crossed our wide open Southern Border is not sitting comfy with me, who knows who they are and what their intentions are beyond purely economical. Maybe I am paranoid, but I am looking into figuring out how to better protect our family, urban crime also isn't getting better.

[Anonymous]

Based on my research there are 5,000 CCW permits in DC which roughly translates into about 1 in 100 adults legally packing.

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Anonymous wrote:^Will help some

I doubt there is a single State that does not criminalize possession of firearms and/or ammunition by felons and other persons who would be prohibited under federal law; interstate firearm transfers; straw purchases and the like. This is the fundamental fraud of anti-firearm organizations. They cynically create the impression of an environment where firearms are a wholly unregulated free for all, when in fact there are multiple layers of duplicative federal and State regulation, covering many if not most or even all of the subjects they claim need still more regulation. Making criminal misconduct “more illegal-er” will not “help some.” It will not help at all, unless “help” is defined as moving the nation toward their goal of ultimately prohibiting private firearm ownership while ignoring the predations of criminals who already don’t obey the law, any law.

Sure it does. It give LEO more tools to fight gun trafficking.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/04/27/results-of-new-gun-control-laws/11734545002/

“President Joe Biden signed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act last summer, making it a federal crime to traffic in firearms and stiffening penalties for “straw purchases” made on behalf of people who aren’t allowed to own guns.

Since then, new data from federal prosecutors shows they’ve charged 31 people in 17 cases under the new legislation.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokeswoman Carolyn Collins called the laws “powerful new tools.”

Federal agents seized 23 firearms shown here from two suspects they say were illegally trafficking guns from Ohio to the Bronx in August 2022. The pair are charged with new gun trafficking law signed by President Biden.
The changes to the federal Gun Control Act “are designed to enhance ATF’s ability to identify, deter, and investigate those who illegally divert firearms from lawful commerce,”

Nothing about this “prohibits private firearm ownership”.

I’m sure that the OP and other CCW holders support laws like the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Right?

[Anonymous]

Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on my research there are 5,000 CCW permits in DC which roughly translates into about 1 in 100 adults legally packing.

A good start and given the political leanings of the city what one would expect. Also a number that is higher than the number of sworn officers on the DC Police force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.

Agree with most of above, but people can and should exercise their constitutional rights whenever they need.

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Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.

Says the people who are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.

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Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.

Says the people who are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.

Where are abortions listed in the constitution?

Just admit it- you can’t stand the fact a citizen demands to exercise their constitutional right.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on my research there are 5,000 CCW permits in DC which roughly translates into about 1 in 100 adults legally packing.

A good start and given the political leanings of the city what one would expect. Also a number that is higher than the number of sworn officers on the DC Police force.

I would expect most CCW holders to be LEOs or Special Police.

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Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.

Says the people who are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.

Who says anything about this? I am pro-choice but also for Second Amendment and right to defend yourself. I am sure I am no unicorn People are fed up and don't feel safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^Will help some

I doubt there is a single State that does not criminalize possession of firearms and/or ammunition by felons and other persons who would be prohibited under federal law; interstate firearm transfers; straw purchases and the like. This is the fundamental fraud of anti-firearm organizations. They cynically create the impression of an environment where firearms are a wholly unregulated free for all, when in fact there are multiple layers of duplicative federal and State regulation, covering many if not most or even all of the subjects they claim need still more regulation. Making criminal misconduct “more illegal-er” will not “help some.” It will not help at all, unless “help” is defined as moving the nation toward their goal of ultimately prohibiting private firearm ownership while ignoring the predations of criminals who already don’t obey the law, any law.

Sure it does. It give LEO more tools to fight gun trafficking.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/04/27/results-of-new-gun-control-laws/11734545002/

“President Joe Biden signed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act last summer, making it a federal crime to traffic in firearms and stiffening penalties for “straw purchases” made on behalf of people who aren’t allowed to own guns.

Since then, new data from federal prosecutors shows they’ve charged 31 people in 17 cases under the new legislation.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokeswoman Carolyn Collins called the laws “powerful new tools.”

Federal agents seized 23 firearms shown here from two suspects they say were illegally trafficking guns from Ohio to the Bronx in August 2022. The pair are charged with new gun trafficking law signed by President Biden.
The changes to the federal Gun Control Act “are designed to enhance ATF’s ability to identify, deter, and investigate those who illegally divert firearms from lawful commerce,”

Nothing about this “prohibits private firearm ownership”.

I’m sure that the OP and other CCW holders support laws like the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Right?

OP here. I am comfortable with laws that make it harder for people legally prohibited from owning firearms from getting there hands on them, as long as those laws do not limit or infringe upon the rights of those who DO have a legal right to possess them.

I would also agree that we need to increase penalties and the application of penalties for those who illegally possess firearms or use them for illegal purposes.

Officers I have talked to are tired of arresting people for serious offenses and seeing them on the street days later. It's demoralizing and it reinforces the belief in the mind of the criminal that, in the words of the current chairman of the DC Council, "you can get away with murder in this city."