APS DHMS walk zone nuclear option

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Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Kenmore parents are rightly pissed off about thus, too! We don’t want the immersion program. We have STEAM already and don’t want another program that has its own “vision” disrupting and superseding our existing program and the neighborhood contingent. It’s patently stupid to move immersion here, when there is a population crunch in this corridor already. Move it where there is space, and always will be space due to restrictive housing policy that will take at least a hundred years to unwind. F*** you immersion jerks!

I do think Kenmore voices are being drowned out in this process. There are a few comments about traffic with a lot of upvotes on ThoughtExchange but I haven’t heard much about Kenmore just not wanting the program and/or not wanting their children to be bumped to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Meant to say I’m a Kenmore parent and didn’t even know about the meeting at Kenmore. And I’m fairly plugged in. They’re going to shove this through I guess without any real input from current Kenmore families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Kenmore parents are rightly pissed off about thus, too! We don’t want the immersion program. We have STEAM already and don’t want another program that has its own “vision” disrupting and superseding our existing program and the neighborhood contingent. It’s patently stupid to move immersion here, when there is a population crunch in this corridor already. Move it where there is space, and always will be space due to restrictive housing policy that will take at least a hundred years to unwind. F*** you immersion jerks!

I do think Kenmore voices are being drowned out in this process. There are a few comments about traffic with a lot of upvotes on ThoughtExchange but I haven’t heard much about Kenmore just not wanting the program and/or not wanting their children to be bumped to other schools.

What have Kenmore parents said? So far I've head complaints about traffic but not much else. Those voices seem to be pretty quiet. No one is complaining about being moved to Swanson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Kenmore parents are rightly pissed off about thus, too! We don’t want the immersion program. We have STEAM already and don’t want another program that has its own “vision” disrupting and superseding our existing program and the neighborhood contingent. It’s patently stupid to move immersion here, when there is a population crunch in this corridor already. Move it where there is space, and always will be space due to restrictive housing policy that will take at least a hundred years to unwind. F*** you immersion jerks!

I do think Kenmore voices are being drowned out in this process. There are a few comments about traffic with a lot of upvotes on ThoughtExchange but I haven’t heard much about Kenmore just not wanting the program and/or not wanting their children to be bumped to other schools.

What have Kenmore parents said? So far I've head complaints about traffic but not much else. Those voices seem to be pretty quiet. No one is complaining about being moved to Swanson.

Uh, no. That’s literally what the Ashlawn parents are complaining about. They don’t want to be split up.

[Anonymous]

And the Barrett parents don’t even know this is happening. APS dropped this while so few were paying attention, on purpose. The Kenmore PTA hasn’t even had a meeting since this was released.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Is this actually true? I haven't seen any demographic info for MS immersion. They might not be as disadvantaged as you think considering the Claremont FARMS rate is 27.64%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And the Barrett parents don’t even know this is happening. APS dropped this while so few were paying attention, on purpose. The Kenmore PTA hasn’t even had a meeting since this was released.

Uh we all go the same emails this summer about middle school boundaries and here is the thread with many, many pages. I don't think "so few" are paying attention. The types who pay attention are fully paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And the Barrett parents don’t even know this is happening. APS dropped this while so few were paying attention, on purpose. The Kenmore PTA hasn’t even had a meeting since this was released.

Agreed that they are doing all this during the summer when people aren’t as plugged in. On purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Kenmore parents are rightly pissed off about thus, too! We don’t want the immersion program. We have STEAM already and don’t want another program that has its own “vision” disrupting and superseding our existing program and the neighborhood contingent. It’s patently stupid to move immersion here, when there is a population crunch in this corridor already. Move it where there is space, and always will be space due to restrictive housing policy that will take at least a hundred years to unwind. F*** you immersion jerks!

What impact would it have on STEAM? I haven't heard any impact identified. This just sounds like irrational hand waving.

You don’t think having two distinct programs in one school is a problem? Gunston parents certainly complained that having Montessori and Immersion houses together was an issue. Will transfers still be allowed? Will Immersion parents insist all the Kenmore staff be replaced with bilingual teachers and administrators? None of these questions have been answered.

Absolutely no one has suggested replacing Kenmore STEAM teachers with bilingual teachers. The MS immersion classes are self contained. This change shouldn't affect your little darling. They just won't enroll in the immersion classes.

I think you need to learn more about how the program works before making crazy accusations.

If they don’t have existing bilingual science and math teachers, they have to replace a bunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Is this actually true? I haven't seen any demographic info for MS immersion. They might not be as disadvantaged as you think considering the Claremont FARMS rate is 27.64%.

No Immersion just trots out “Spanish speaking == poor” as a club to get their way.

I can’t believe we prioritizing OPTION program commute comfort over neighborhood schools and busing costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Kenmore parents are rightly pissed off about thus, too! We don’t want the immersion program. We have STEAM already and don’t want another program that has its own “vision” disrupting and superseding our existing program and the neighborhood contingent. It’s patently stupid to move immersion here, when there is a population crunch in this corridor already. Move it where there is space, and always will be space due to restrictive housing policy that will take at least a hundred years to unwind. F*** you immersion jerks!

What impact would it have on STEAM? I haven't heard any impact identified. This just sounds like irrational hand waving.

You don’t think having two distinct programs in one school is a problem? Gunston parents certainly complained that having Montessori and Immersion houses together was an issue. Will transfers still be allowed? Will Immersion parents insist all the Kenmore staff be replaced with bilingual teachers and administrators? None of these questions have been answered.

Absolutely no one has suggested replacing Kenmore STEAM teachers with bilingual teachers. The MS immersion classes are self contained. This change shouldn't affect your little darling. They just won't enroll in the immersion classes.

I think you need to learn more about how the program works before making crazy accusations.

If they don’t have existing bilingual science and math teachers, they have to replace a bunch.

I thought they were moving the existing immersion program (and teachers) to the Kenmore building. So the current staff/teachers will move elsewhere within APS.

Or are they adding immersion to the Kenmore program so there is a second immersion MS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

Is this actually true? I haven't seen any demographic info for MS immersion. They might not be as disadvantaged as you think considering the Claremont FARMS rate is 27.64%.

No Immersion just trots out “Spanish speaking == poor” as a club to get their way.

I can’t believe we prioritizing OPTION program commute comfort over neighborhood schools and busing costs.

+1

That is my big issue with all of the option schools. If we need to have them, fine. But they get resources/priority after neighborhood schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meant to say I’m a Kenmore parent and didn’t even know about the meeting at Kenmore. And I’m fairly plugged in. They’re going to shove this through I guess without any real input from current Kenmore families.

The good news is that staff is now saying that the Pre-CIP was just an idea and the real maps and information will come with the actual CIP in October. Not that it’s too early to get involved but it’s definitely not too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

I mean south arlington families are about to have to do it for a Nottingham swing space. That’s somehow ok but going for MS is not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The families being rezoned to Williamsburg would have vigorously defended their right to attend Williamsburg before Hamm opened. That's where they were zoned historically. But now it's suddenly too inconvenient? For a cohort of families with amongst the most resources in Arlington?

Instead they're now asking for a cohort of families with far fewer resources and means to trek across the county for MS? Most immersion students live in the Gunston/Wakefield boundary. That's a long way from Williamsburg. And the program collapses without the Spanish speaking classmates, so that would be the end of it. All so a few very privileged kids don't have to travel to an excellent MS that was considered their preferred option just a few years ago.

I mean south arlington families are about to have to do it for a Nottingham swing space. That’s somehow ok but going for MS is not?

If you've read the thread that we've already discussed this and there's no other option. APS says they need students to move elsewhere for a period of time. Tents in the parking lot won't work. It's not like there are lots of alternatives. It's also only temporary.