APS DHMS walk zone nuclear option

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. Volunteering others for longer bus rides so that you could walk.

I'm not sure I get this comment. It's not much of a longer ride to be buses to Williamsburg over Hamm. Where were those kids bused before Hamm opened?

I'm not affected, but do think it's a pretty odd choice by APS not to take advantage of the walk zones for Hamm. For the kids in the Rosslyn corridor, I'm not sure the difference between Hamm and Williamsburg is that significant. They're already getting on a bus and Williamsburg isn't that much farther. It also would be great for diversity for Williamsburg to pull from more diverse zones.

I agree with this, even though it would probably mean putting my kids on a bus. APS has to start being more efficient. Rosslyn isn’t in a walk zone for anything and this is a small county. I wouldn’t bus kids in a walk zone to Hamm when there are relatively nearby kids that aren’t in a walk zone to anything.

I would be surprised if they put Rosslyn back at Williamsburg. Look at the parking minimums they are letting APAH get away with in their new developments at Queens Court and Marbella. Then look at the bus routes to Williamsburg. You can try to advocate for Rosslyn to get on a cross county bus, but it’s not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. Volunteering others for longer bus rides so that you could walk.

I'm not sure I get this comment. It's not much of a longer ride to be buses to Williamsburg over Hamm. Where were those kids bused before Hamm opened?

I'm not affected, but do think it's a pretty odd choice by APS not to take advantage of the walk zones for Hamm. For the kids in the Rosslyn corridor, I'm not sure the difference between Hamm and Williamsburg is that significant. They're already getting on a bus and Williamsburg isn't that much farther. It also would be great for diversity for Williamsburg to pull from more diverse zones.

I agree with this, even though it would probably mean putting my kids on a bus. APS has to start being more efficient. Rosslyn isn’t in a walk zone for anything and this is a small county. I wouldn’t bus kids in a walk zone to Hamm when there are relatively nearby kids that aren’t in a walk zone to anything.

I would be surprised if they put Rosslyn back at Williamsburg. Look at the parking minimums they are letting APAH get away with in their new developments at Queens Court and Marbella. Then look at the bus routes to Williamsburg. You can try to advocate for Rosslyn to get on a cross county bus, but it’s not going to happen.

Cross county bus? Stop being exaggerating. That's where those kids went before Hamm and it was fine then.

[Anonymous]

The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. Volunteering others for longer bus rides so that you could walk.

I'm not sure I get this comment. It's not much of a longer ride to be buses to Williamsburg over Hamm. Where were those kids bused before Hamm opened?

I'm not affected, but do think it's a pretty odd choice by APS not to take advantage of the walk zones for Hamm. For the kids in the Rosslyn corridor, I'm not sure the difference between Hamm and Williamsburg is that significant. They're already getting on a bus and Williamsburg isn't that much farther. It also would be great for diversity for Williamsburg to pull from more diverse zones.

I agree with this, even though it would probably mean putting my kids on a bus. APS has to start being more efficient. Rosslyn isn’t in a walk zone for anything and this is a small county. I wouldn’t bus kids in a walk zone to Hamm when there are relatively nearby kids that aren’t in a walk zone to anything.

I would be surprised if they put Rosslyn back at Williamsburg. Look at the parking minimums they are letting APAH get away with in their new developments at Queens Court and Marbella. Then look at the bus routes to Williamsburg. You can try to advocate for Rosslyn to get on a cross county bus, but it’s not going to happen.

Cross county bus? Stop being exaggerating. That's where those kids went before Hamm and it was fine then.

I’m talking about public transportation, not the school bus. Presumably you want parents to be able to pick up sick kids, etc. you should have said something when they were approving all the new developments with no parking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again. Volunteering others for longer bus rides so that you could walk.

I'm not sure I get this comment. It's not much of a longer ride to be buses to Williamsburg over Hamm. Where were those kids bused before Hamm opened?

I'm not affected, but do think it's a pretty odd choice by APS not to take advantage of the walk zones for Hamm. For the kids in the Rosslyn corridor, I'm not sure the difference between Hamm and Williamsburg is that significant. They're already getting on a bus and Williamsburg isn't that much farther. It also would be great for diversity for Williamsburg to pull from more diverse zones.

I agree with this, even though it would probably mean putting my kids on a bus. APS has to start being more efficient. Rosslyn isn’t in a walk zone for anything and this is a small county. I wouldn’t bus kids in a walk zone to Hamm when there are relatively nearby kids that aren’t in a walk zone to anything.

I would be surprised if they put Rosslyn back at Williamsburg. Look at the parking minimums they are letting APAH get away with in their new developments at Queens Court and Marbella. Then look at the bus routes to Williamsburg. You can try to advocate for Rosslyn to get on a cross county bus, but it’s not going to happen.

Cross county bus? Stop being exaggerating. That's where those kids went before Hamm and it was fine then.

I’m talking about public transportation, not the school bus. Presumably you want parents to be able to pick up sick kids, etc. you should have said something when they were approving all the new developments with no parking.

DP. A lot of people did speak up about the parking. If you are regularly involved in the public planning process for Arlington County, then you know that they are reducing parking in developments across the board. There’s nothing anyone could say to change that. Trust me, the parking people show up to every meeting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

In your scenario, who gets carved off to go Yorktown to make up Rosslyn’s population?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh look. We should have done a Rosslyn MS after all.

And then the DHMS walk zone would still be bused? So you want to abolish HBW — I could get behind that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

In your scenario, who gets carved off to go Yorktown to make up Rosslyn’s population?

Pull from below 50.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh look. We should have done a Rosslyn MS after all.

And then the DHMS walk zone would still be bused? So you want to abolish HBW — I could get behind that.

Same. No more option schools, no more brain drain. Saves the taxpayers $$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

In your scenario, who gets carved off to go Yorktown to make up Rosslyn’s population?

Pull from below 50.

But which neighborhoods wouldn’t “pass” WL en route to Yorktown? I’m not sure the commute would be any shorter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

No you don’t. A rosslyn bus would go up Lorcam and Langston to YHS. WL is a 1/3 of the county south of that on Washington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between the Rosalyn to Yorktown and Rosslyn to Williamsburg commute is maybe 2 minutes. The Rosslyn to Hamm bus is about 6 min less than the bus to Williamsburg As someone who got moved to a more walkable elementary school, I strongly advocate for keeping those in walking distance as walkers.

Exactly.

+2. They are going to Yorktown so it would make sense to change the MS to Williamsburg. Good for the school bus route, good for keeping planning units together, good for diversity. The Williamsburg diversity is frankly pitiful.

Rosslyn should be going to WL. You drive past it halfway on the way to Yorktown, just like you drive past Hamm halfway on the way to Williamsburg.

In your scenario, who gets carved off to go Yorktown to make up Rosslyn’s population?

Pull from below 50.

But which neighborhoods wouldn’t “pass” WL en route to Yorktown? I’m not sure the commute would be any shorter.

Zero traffic, YHS is 13 min, WL is 9 min. But WL would be on a much more congested route so real world times would be a wash.