Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

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Anonymous wrote:Why did they have such a hard time putting tyre in custody, they had 5 cops? How could they not restrain him from resisting?

They should do toxicology on the cops.

Steroid abuse is a serious issue.

LOL no. Did you post on the wrong thread?

It's funny to hear a bunch of entitled justice warriors talk about law enforcement and tactics when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I'm sure some nerd will soon chime in with some scientific study that will explain everything!

You don’t think the cops in waste it on something? You don’t think cops ever show up to work wasted?

Do you think doctors show up to work wasted?

They kill literally thousands of people a year so they could be drunk or on roids?

Yes, they could be.

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Anonymous wrote:Can there just be an understanding that you should never resist arrest? Regardless of race, gender, criminal record - just do not resist arrest.

So that’s your excuse for summary executions?

Not relevant. Stop resisting.

This was not a “summary execution.” The police did not intend to kill this man. They may have been recklessly indifferent but his death was not purposeful.

They didn’t intend to kill him. They were just softening him up before taking him out for tea and cookies. The poor man had the nerve to die.

Puerile emotionalism sarcasm doesn’t change the facts. They intended to subdue him. They didn’t just shoot him in the back of the head.

You don’t understand “Intent to kill” definition.

They formed intent to kill when they intentionally beat him enough to die.

If you shoot at somebody with the intent to kill them and miss them but kill somebody else, you are charged with “intent to kill”.

If you intentionally beat someone to death … even if your intent was not necessarily to kill, you formed intent to kill by doing something intentionally that killed them.

No, you don’t understand the difference between “some degree of homicide” and “summary execution.”

The issue to which the relevant posts was directed was not whether, when and to what extent any given defendant formed the mens rea sufficient to support a conviction for some degree of homicide. It was whether what occurred was a summary execution. It was not.

For an illustration of summary execution see the shooting down in the street of Viet Kong Captain Nguyễn Văn Lém by South Vietnamese General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan in February 1, 1968, during the Tet Offensive.

A summary execution is an execution in which a person is accused of a crime and immediately killed without the benefit of a full and fair trial.

This literally is what happened to Tyre.

If there was even a scintilla of merit to this argument the police involved would be charged with murder, not second degree murder.

Exaggeration does not move the hall down the field toward a solution to the problem of excessive police force.

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Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

Do they also have Crohn’s Disease like he did?

[Anonymous]

Watching this video was hard, but a few things struck me:

1) From the first seconds of the traffic stop, these cops did everything possible to escalate the situation. They approached him like they thought he had a kidnap victim in his trunk, rather than him being guilty of, at worst, reckless driving. How differently would this have ended if they'd simply asked for his license and registration, and then given him a ticket and sent him on his way? These guys were looking for a fight.

2) If the cops weren't wearing police uniforms, there would have been nothing to indicate that they were trained, professional law enforcement officers. This looked like a road rage incident, where a bunch of guys with anger management issues lost it and beat up a guy for cutting them off in traffic.

3) There never seemed to be anyone in charge of the situation. At no point did a sergeant or supervisor show up to take control of the incident, and to make sure things didn't get out of control. This was just a bunch of guys yelling at the victim, taking turns beating him, then milling around afterwards with no indication that they were doing anything police related.

The level of incompetency, lack of training and brutality here was just shocking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't excuse the behavior of the police in this situation. It is beyond disgusting what they did.

Btw, even Fox news is condemning the police in this situation.

Of course because everyone involved is Black.

Please keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

It's a simple concept in criminal law that we can conclude what your intent was based on the natural outcome of your actions.

Kicking a man in the head while he's on the ground, and beating a defenseless person with a nightstick can quite easily lead to significant injury and death.

And the comparison to an MMA match is, frankly, idiotic. MMA matches involved professional, highly trained fighters who are able to defend themselves. And an MMA referee will end a fight when a fighter can no longer defend himself. I'm not sure what to say to you if you can't see the difference between that and half a dozen cops taking cheap shots to a restrained and helpless guy.

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Do you think some of the cops got caught in the pepper spray, then took out their anger (of getting accidentally sprayed) on Tyre?

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Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

Do they also have Crohn’s Disease like he did?

Christian Lubenga MMA fighter dies after fight.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think some of the cops got caught in the pepper spray, then took out their anger (of getting accidentally sprayed) on Tyre?

Yes, it seemed pretty clear the cops were angry because some of them got sprayed, others were pissed that they had to run (they were all clearly out of shape), and they were all annoyed that he disrespected them.

Not a single one of these cops was able to handle a stressful situation without losing it and resorting to violence. I guaranty you this was not the first time this happened, just that their previous victims weren't badly injured or died.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think some of the cops got caught in the pepper spray, then took out their anger (of getting accidentally sprayed) on Tyre?

Absolutely.

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You know it’s bad when the FOP is like, “I’m out.”

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Anonymous wrote:You know it’s bad when the FOP is like, “I’m out.”

People here will still try to justify it. It's sickening.

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So does anyone know what data the SCORPION unit uses when targeting who to go after? Is this like an AI-guided program? I was reading about a similar program in Miami that went seriously awry, with cops harassing little teen-aged school children, their families and their friends. Hard to believe this sh*t is happening in the USofA.

[Anonymous]

^^Sorry, meant to say Florida, not Miami.

[Anonymous]

^^Below I've listed the article in the Tampa Bay Times, with a heading.

"Pasco Sheriff Chris Nocco took over in 2011 and set out to transform the Sheriff’s Office into a cutting-edge data-driven machine. The result is an intelligence operation that monitors, intimidates and harasses families across the county."

https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2020/investigations/police-pasco-sheriff-targeted/