Memphis Cops Kill Motorist After Traffic Stop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does anyone know what data the SCORPION unit uses when targeting who to go after? Is this like an AI-guided program? I was reading about a similar program in Miami that went seriously awry, with cops harassing little teen-aged school children, their families and their friends. Hard to believe this sh*t is happening in the USofA.

There was a similar program in Baltimore City, the Gun Trace Task Force, where the cops jumped out on anyone wearing a backpack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

Do they also have Crohn’s Disease like he did?

Did the officers have access to his medical records prior to him actively resisting and fleeing on foot?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can't excuse the behavior of the police in this situation. It is beyond disgusting what they did.

Btw, even Fox news is condemning the police in this situation.

Of course because everyone involved is Black.

Please keep up.

So you think these cops behaved appropriately?

[Anonymous]

I haven’t heard a single law enforcement professional offer any justification of these cops’ actions. Quite the contrary, in fact.
Why are some posters here still bending over backwards to defend these officers and impugn Tyre Nichols?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching this video was hard, but a few things struck me:

1) From the first seconds of the traffic stop, these cops did everything possible to escalate the situation. They approached him like they thought he had a kidnap victim in his trunk, rather than him being guilty of, at worst, reckless driving. How differently would this have ended if they'd simply asked for his license and registration, and then given him a ticket and sent him on his way? These guys were looking for a fight.

2) If the cops weren't wearing police uniforms, there would have been nothing to indicate that they were trained, professional law enforcement officers. This looked like a road rage incident, where a bunch of guys with anger management issues lost it and beat up a guy for cutting them off in traffic.

3) There never seemed to be anyone in charge of the situation. At no point did a sergeant or supervisor show up to take control of the incident, and to make sure things didn't get out of control. This was just a bunch of guys yelling at the victim, taking turns beating him, then milling around afterwards with no indication that they were doing anything police related.

The level of incompetency, lack of training and brutality here was just shocking.

This is a good description. The cops apparently were members of a “jump out” squad. Such squads present yet another policy issue — should the police be verging on if not crossing the line between “aggressive” patrol and outright street fighting. I mean generally, not in this pparticular case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think some of the cops got caught in the pepper spray, then took out their anger (of getting accidentally sprayed) on Tyre?

I had the impression that these cops pepper sprayed themselves and each other pretty regularly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

It's a simple concept in criminal law that we can conclude what your intent was based on the natural outcome of your actions.

Kicking a man in the head while he's on the ground, and beating a defenseless person with a nightstick can quite easily lead to significant injury and death.

And the comparison to an MMA match is, frankly, idiotic. MMA matches involved professional, highly trained fighters who are able to defend themselves. And an MMA referee will end a fight when a fighter can no longer defend himself. I'm not sure what to say to you if you can't see the difference between that and half a dozen cops taking cheap shots to a restrained and helpless guy.

There is a big difference between curb stomping someones face and landing a few punches and kicks. Can you even tell where the baton strikes landed? The video footage is pretty bad. You have the benefit of hindsight. If you showed that video to someone and asked them if they thought the suspect would die, I have a hard time believing many people would think that death would result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t heard a single law enforcement professional offer any justification of these cops’ actions. Quite the contrary, in fact.
Why are some posters here still bending over backwards to defend these officers and impugn Tyre Nichols?

Because Tucker said so. There’s no other reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These murderers should die the same way. They should be beaten and filmed and their family members must watch it all.

You will be lucky to get one murder conviction out of this deal.

The damage he took, although definitely unjustified and a horrible use of tactics, was not likely to cause death. MMA athletes take 10x the abuse and don't die.

It's a simple concept in criminal law that we can conclude what your intent was based on the natural outcome of your actions.

Kicking a man in the head while he's on the ground, and beating a defenseless person with a nightstick can quite easily lead to significant injury and death.

And the comparison to an MMA match is, frankly, idiotic. MMA matches involved professional, highly trained fighters who are able to defend themselves. And an MMA referee will end a fight when a fighter can no longer defend himself. I'm not sure what to say to you if you can't see the difference between that and half a dozen cops taking cheap shots to a restrained and helpless guy.

There is a big difference between curb stomping someones face and landing a few punches and kicks. Can you even tell where the baton strikes landed? The video footage is pretty bad. You have the benefit of hindsight. If you showed that video to someone and asked them if they thought the suspect would die, I have a hard time believing many people would think that death would result.

One of them kicked him so hard in the head that he almost fell over. They also didn’t bother to render aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t heard a single law enforcement professional offer any justification of these cops’ actions. Quite the contrary, in fact.
Why are some posters here still bending over backwards to defend these officers and impugn Tyre Nichols?

You are obviously misconstruing what people are posting. There were several officers involved and some were more culpable than others. A lot of people posting on these topics have an axe to grind with law enforcement, so their comments are always predictable and will condemn officers regardless of the evidence. Critical thinking and nuance isn't their thing. You know, like Freddie Gray, Michael Brown, or Rayshard Brooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t heard a single law enforcement professional offer any justification of these cops’ actions. Quite the contrary, in fact.
Why are some posters here still bending over backwards to defend these officers and impugn Tyre Nichols?

You are obviously misconstruing what people are posting. There were several officers involved and some were more culpable than others. A lot of people posting on these topics have an axe to grind with law enforcement, so their comments are always predictable and will condemn officers regardless of the evidence. Critical thinking and nuance isn't their thing. You know, like Freddie Gray, Michael Brown, or Rayshard Brooks.

And the victim blaming continues.

[Anonymous]

How are people like these 5 being hired as law enforcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are people like these 5 being hired as law enforcement?

That's a good question. They appeared to be extremely incomptent, unprofessional, untrained, buffoons, and unable to control their emotions.

The job itself sucks. It's all about dealing with difficult people and writing tons of reports. It takes a special person and personality to be able to roll with the punches and not get stressed out. There's a reason why most people will spend less than 5 yrs in patrol and then move on to another job in the department with less BS involved. But yeah, you would think anyone would be better than these guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are people like these 5 being hired as law enforcement?

These are the exact traits they hire for. Not too bright. Willing to follow. Enjoys power and violence. God complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are people like these 5 being hired as law enforcement?

These are the exact traits they hire for. Not too bright. Willing to follow. Enjoys power and violence. God complex.

Don’t be stupid