Trying to understand Nicola Peltz Beckham

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I have actual nightmares about having to live through another wedding, and I'm very happily married.

You have to be seriously bored, or have a very poor imagination on how to spend money, to plan a vow renewals after less than five years of marriage.

Anyone want to bet on how soon the separation is announced?

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Anonymous wrote:I have actual nightmares about having to live through another wedding, and I'm very happily married.

You have to be seriously bored, or have a very poor imagination on how to spend money, to plan a vow renewals after less than five years of marriage.

Anyone want to bet on how soon the separation is announced?

Probably sooner rather than later. She just had her husband completely humiliate himself to the world for no apparent reason after making sure he isolated himself with no family support. This thing has probably run its course.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

The point went over your head- don't worry about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have actual nightmares about having to live through another wedding, and I'm very happily married.

You have to be seriously bored, or have a very poor imagination on how to spend money, to plan a vow renewals after less than five years of marriage.

Anyone want to bet on how soon the separation is announced?

Probably sooner rather than later. She just had her husband completely humiliate himself to the world for no apparent reason after making sure he isolated himself with no family support. This thing has probably run its course.

You seem bizarrely sure that you know what is going on in their family dynamics? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:I have actual nightmares about having to live through another wedding, and I'm very happily married.

You have to be seriously bored, or have a very poor imagination on how to spend money, to plan a vow renewals after less than five years of marriage.

Anyone want to bet on how soon the separation is announced?

Probably sooner rather than later. She just had her husband completely humiliate himself to the world for no apparent reason after making sure he isolated himself with no family support. This thing has probably run its course.

You seem bizarrely sure that you know what is going on in their family dynamics? Why?

Uh what? We could all read what he posted and he told everyone he's told his parents to only contact him through lawyers. He told us all himself. No crystal ball needed. Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

That wasn't the point. The point was daughters usually favor their own birth families and if in laws are unhappy about it, they should blame their sons for not doing more to maintain a relationship rather than blame their daughter in law.

[Anonymous]

I would think the Peltz's as a whole would tire of him soon. The Peltz father is a business man and most of his kids seem to work and have jobs. The peltz mother was a model and so also worked for awhile until she lucked in to the Peltz wealth at the age of 30. She then went on to have 8 kids (although the last two might be surrogate given she would have been 51 when they were born). Nicola is really her baby and her mini me it seems.

Nicola and Brooklyn have their own 20 million dollar home in LA but the Peltz's have a 76 million dollar home in Palm Beach and a 27 bedroom mansion in New York.

I wonder if Brooklyn being in the USA and his family living in London has widened the chasm between them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

That wasn't the point. The point was daughters usually favor their own birth families and if in laws are unhappy about it, they should blame their sons for not doing more to maintain a relationship rather than blame their daughter in law.

Do you really think it is Brooklyn who has been fretting about a wedding dress for 4 years?

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Anonymous wrote:I would think the Peltz's as a whole would tire of him soon. The Peltz father is a business man and most of his kids seem to work and have jobs. The peltz mother was a model and so also worked for awhile until she lucked in to the Peltz wealth at the age of 30. She then went on to have 8 kids (although the last two might be surrogate given she would have been 51 when they were born). Nicola is really her baby and her mini me it seems.

Nicola and Brooklyn have their own 20 million dollar home in LA but the Peltz's have a 76 million dollar home in Palm Beach and a 27 bedroom mansion in New York.

I wonder if Brooklyn being in the USA and his family living in London has widened the chasm between them.

I think they'll either separate or announce a pregnancy.

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Anonymous wrote:The Beckhams are in their 50s acting like high schoolers.

They have raised a monster and are paying the price. But David has said sometimes you hae to let the kids make their mistakes. Brooklyn will come crawling back at some point.

Sure, but at their age they should be taking the high road and not taking the bait. I expect Nicola and Brooklyn to act more immature because of their relative youth and coddled spoiled brat upbringings. I expect N&B to be hypersensitive and more emotionally unstable. The Beckhams have no idea how petty and unhinged they are coming across by publicly battling those two.

Nicola is 31 and Brooklyn is 27. Tehy seem much younger because they are still acting like spoiled children. They are plenty old enough to start maturing.

And the Beckhams aren't publicly battling them - what evidence do you have of that?

But HOW would Nicola and Brooklyn mature? They can't work a 9-5 job with an hour commute each way like us. Neither of them went to college. They can't work at McDonald's full time because they don't have the stamina to do that day in and day out. They can't clean their mansion each day because they have people who do it for them. Adversity causes people to mature. Friction in your life causes maturity. They have none. Money makes all those things go away.

When I think about David saying you have to let your kids make mistakes what I heard was "Brooklyn is making a mistake now, but that's okay" as if he'll let Brooklyn find his way back to the family and will be welcomed. Of the two I think we can all agree Victoria is the colder one.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

That wasn't the point. The point was daughters usually favor their own birth families and if in laws are unhappy about it, they should blame their sons for not doing more to maintain a relationship rather than blame their daughter in law.

I'm the original person who brought up the favored side story. My point was not at all that my son's girlfriend was to blame, so I'm not sure how it derived into that. In my eyes it's not a "blame him or blame her" situation. It just is. I think the in-laws, as the older people who are more mature, have to just adapt and realize the wife (and by extension her family) usually comes first and that won't always align with your plans or desires. You just have to suck it up and be gracious because you cannot control your son as an adult. And odds the relationship will be good are greater if you accept that than if you make demands because demands create resentment. So the Beckhams might blame Nicole, they might blame their kid...Ultimately none of that matters or helps the situation because they have the dil they have so they have to deal with it or risk further estrangement.

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Anonymous wrote:The Beckhams are in their 50s acting like high schoolers.

They have raised a monster and are paying the price. But David has said sometimes you hae to let the kids make their mistakes. Brooklyn will come crawling back at some point.

Sure, but at their age they should be taking the high road and not taking the bait. I expect Nicola and Brooklyn to act more immature because of their relative youth and coddled spoiled brat upbringings. I expect N&B to be hypersensitive and more emotionally unstable. The Beckhams have no idea how petty and unhinged they are coming across by publicly battling those two.

Nicola is 31 and Brooklyn is 27. Tehy seem much younger because they are still acting like spoiled children. They are plenty old enough to start maturing.

And the Beckhams aren't publicly battling them - what evidence do you have of that?

But HOW would Nicola and Brooklyn mature? They can't work a 9-5 job with an hour commute each way like us. Neither of them went to college. They can't work at McDonald's full time because they don't have the stamina to do that day in and day out. They can't clean their mansion each day because they have people who do it for them. Adversity causes people to mature. Friction in your life causes maturity. They have none. Money makes all those things go away.

When I think about David saying you have to let your kids make mistakes what I heard was "Brooklyn is making a mistake now, but that's okay" as if he'll let Brooklyn find his way back to the family and will be welcomed. Of the two I think we can all agree Victoria is the colder one.

Most of the Peltz kids work. Some as executives for one of dads companies but they seem to have educations and careers.

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Anonymous wrote:The Beckhams are in their 50s acting like high schoolers.

They have raised a monster and are paying the price. But David has said sometimes you hae to let the kids make their mistakes. Brooklyn will come crawling back at some point.

Sure, but at their age they should be taking the high road and not taking the bait. I expect Nicola and Brooklyn to act more immature because of their relative youth and coddled spoiled brat upbringings. I expect N&B to be hypersensitive and more emotionally unstable. The Beckhams have no idea how petty and unhinged they are coming across by publicly battling those two.

Nicola is 31 and Brooklyn is 27. Tehy seem much younger because they are still acting like spoiled children. They are plenty old enough to start maturing.

And the Beckhams aren't publicly battling them - what evidence do you have of that?

But HOW would Nicola and Brooklyn mature? They can't work a 9-5 job with an hour commute each way like us. Neither of them went to college. They can't work at McDonald's full time because they don't have the stamina to do that day in and day out. They can't clean their mansion each day because they have people who do it for them. Adversity causes people to mature. Friction in your life causes maturity. They have none. Money makes all those things go away.

When I think about David saying you have to let your kids make mistakes what I heard was "Brooklyn is making a mistake now, but that's okay" as if he'll let Brooklyn find his way back to the family and will be welcomed. Of the two I think we can all agree Victoria is the colder one.

Most of the Peltz kids work. Some as executives for one of dads companies but they seem to have educations and careers.

They could make jam like Megan Markle. They could invest in real estate and become landlords or property flippers. They could raise money for causes and volunteer. They coukd have seven kids and homeschool them on a huge farm. They could become artisinal cheesemakers. Rich people find things to do!

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Anonymous wrote:I would think the Peltz's as a whole would tire of him soon. The Peltz father is a business man and most of his kids seem to work and have jobs. The peltz mother was a model and so also worked for awhile until she lucked in to the Peltz wealth at the age of 30. She then went on to have 8 kids (although the last two might be surrogate given she would have been 51 when they were born). Nicola is really her baby and her mini me it seems.

Nicola and Brooklyn have their own 20 million dollar home in LA but the Peltz's have a 76 million dollar home in Palm Beach and a 27 bedroom mansion in New York.

I wonder if Brooklyn being in the USA and his family living in London has widened the chasm between them.

I think they'll either separate or announce a pregnancy.

A surrogate pregnancy. Too posh to push.

[Anonymous]

They will have a reality show soon now that they’ve established relevance/interest and have a hook/storyline.