Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

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#fail
#failure
#enabledmurder
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Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.


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As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.


Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.


Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow


How do you feel about "proper perimeter fences" that are "intended to deter"? Big fan?


I think anything you do to slow down someone is helpful. Ted Bundy got Kimberly Leach on school grounds. He would have had a hard time climbing a locked fence with a child in tow.


The gunman climbed an 8' fence to get in.

The police had a lot of time to act. They chose not to.


I don't think the police were on the scene of the crash
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All of these cops need to be fired and lose their pensions.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.


+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.


Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.


Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow




The answer is always more guns, isn’t it?! When do we have enough guns? You aren’t much better than the shooter. You enable people like him.


It's worked in the past. It's not always the answer but I guess until you get ALL the guns, your odds are better if there is a good guy with one as well.

The “good guy” line was literally made up by the NRA after Sandy Hook. There were 19 good guys there and they were all afraid of the arsenal that the people they voted for made available to the bad guy.

Here’s the training manual for school shootings:
https://www.tcole.texas.gov/sites/default/files/CourseCMU/Active%20Shooter%20-%20SBLE%202195%20course%20Final%201-30-20.docx

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Anonymous wrote:Guns aren’t going anywhere, especially anytime soon. They are here to stay in our lifetime. Ban or not- they will be available and in circulation for a long time.

We need police with courage. We need police that will put their safety aside and rush in with everything they’ve got- when kids are being mass murdered. I wouldn’t expect this of police in very circumstance. But a school shooting, you
GO IN and stop him or die trying. We need police capable of this


Yeah, but we don’t have them. And that won’t do anything about “ordinary” gun violence.

So we need to take away guns. Americans can’t be trusted with them. School massacres like this are the tip of the ice berg that is gun violence.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.


+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.


Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.


Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow




The answer is always more guns, isn’t it?! When do we have enough guns? You aren’t much better than the shooter. You enable people like him.


It's worked in the past. It's not always the answer but I guess until you get ALL the guns, your odds are better if there is a good guy with one as well.

The “good guy” line was literally made up by the NRA after Sandy Hook. There were 19 good guys there and they were all afraid of the arsenal that the people they voted for made available to the bad guy.

Here’s the training manual for school shootings:
https://www.tcole.texas.gov/sites/default/files/CourseCMU/Active%20Shooter%20-%20SBLE%202195%20course%20Final%201-30-20.docx



So take all the guns away from honest, law abiding citizens and see if the violence stops.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.


+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.


Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.


Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow




The answer is always more guns, isn’t it?! When do we have enough guns? You aren’t much better than the shooter. You enable people like him.


It's worked in the past. It's not always the answer but I guess until you get ALL the guns, your odds are better if there is a good guy with one as well.

The “good guy” line was literally made up by the NRA after Sandy Hook. There were 19 good guys there and they were all afraid of the arsenal that the people they voted for made available to the bad guy.

Here’s the training manual for school shootings:
https://www.tcole.texas.gov/sites/default/files/CourseCMU/Active%20Shooter%20-%20SBLE%202195%20course%20Final%201-30-20.docx



So take all the guns away from honest, law abiding citizens and see if the violence stops.


Oh, a good deal of it will. I actually love this idea.
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Anonymous wrote:Guns aren’t going anywhere, especially anytime soon. They are here to stay in our lifetime. Ban or not- they will be available and in circulation for a long time.

We need police with courage. We need police that will put their safety aside and rush in with everything they’ve got- when kids are being mass murdered. I wouldn’t expect this of police in very circumstance. But a school shooting, you
GO IN and stop him or die trying. We need police capable of this

I remember a time when the idea that people wouldn’t smoke cigarettes everywhere was inconceivable.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.


+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.


Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.


Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow




The answer is always more guns, isn’t it?! When do we have enough guns? You aren’t much better than the shooter. You enable people like him.


It's worked in the past. It's not always the answer but I guess until you get ALL the guns, your odds are better if there is a good guy with one as well.

The “good guy” line was literally made up by the NRA after Sandy Hook. There were 19 good guys there and they were all afraid of the arsenal that the people they voted for made available to the bad guy.

Here’s the training manual for school shootings:
https://www.tcole.texas.gov/sites/default/files/CourseCMU/Active%20Shooter%20-%20SBLE%202195%20course%20Final%201-30-20.docx



So take all the guns away from honest, law abiding citizens and see if the violence stops.


The mass shooting will stop. They didn’t exist before. Suicide by gun will also drop. Win-win in my book. Men will have to find another way to channel their rage.
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Now that we know police with body armour and guns are just as afraid of one shooter with an AR-15 as teachers and little school children, we can do something about the guns. Instead of cosplaying and security theater.



What an incredible and horrible timeline. Imagine being a child witnessing that horror and for over 40 minutes NOTHING happens.
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Now that we know police with body armour and guns are just as afraid of one shooter with an AR-15 as teachers and little school children, we can do something about the guns. Instead of cosplaying and security theater.



In every election, police unions endorse Republican candidates who demand unlimited, widespread proliferation of AR-15s. Yet, when children’s lives are in danger from a psychopath with an AR-15, police apparently won’t rush in to save them because it would be a suicide mission. Here’s a thought: Maybe police unions should *stop endorsing* the Republican candidates who are flooding the community with AR-15s.
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Anonymous wrote:Guns aren’t going anywhere, especially anytime soon. They are here to stay in our lifetime. Ban or not- they will be available and in circulation for a long time.

We need police with courage. We need police that will put their safety aside and rush in with everything they’ve got- when kids are being mass murdered. I wouldn’t expect this of police in very circumstance. But a school shooting, you
GO IN and stop him or die trying. We need police capable of this

I remember a time when the idea that people wouldn’t smoke cigarettes everywhere was inconceivable.


I hate guns and I can also be realistic about the power of the 2nd amendment.

No amendment about tobacco.

NP
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Anonymous wrote:Guns aren’t going anywhere, especially anytime soon. They are here to stay in our lifetime. Ban or not- they will be available and in circulation for a long time.

We need police with courage. We need police that will put their safety aside and rush in with everything they’ve got- when kids are being mass murdered. I wouldn’t expect this of police in very circumstance. But a school shooting, you
GO IN and stop him or die trying. We need police capable of this


Yep


We need to be able to sue and prosecute people who do not properly store their firearms and We need mandatory background checks and to hold anyone liable for selling a weapon to someone who should not have been sold one. Until there is a consequence for people not being responsible, everyone else will keep paying the price.
My family loves guns but they are 100% for common sense, safe handling and storage of all weapons
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Anonymous wrote:
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Now that we know police with body armour and guns are just as afraid of one shooter with an AR-15 as teachers and little school children, we can do something about the guns. Instead of cosplaying and security theater.



In every election, police unions endorse Republican candidates who demand unlimited, widespread proliferation of AR-15s. Yet, when children’s lives are in danger from a psychopath with an AR-15, police apparently won’t rush in to save them because it would be a suicide mission. Here’s a thought: Maybe police unions should *stop endorsing* the Republican candidates who are flooding the community with AR-15s.


You're acting as if police unions care about anything other than the employment and pay and freedom from accountability of their members.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guns aren’t going anywhere, especially anytime soon. They are here to stay in our lifetime. Ban or not- they will be available and in circulation for a long time.

We need police with courage. We need police that will put their safety aside and rush in with everything they’ve got- when kids are being mass murdered. I wouldn’t expect this of police in very circumstance. But a school shooting, you
GO IN and stop him or die trying. We need police capable of this

I remember a time when the idea that people wouldn’t smoke cigarettes everywhere was inconceivable.


I hate guns and I can also be realistic about the power of the 2nd amendment.

No amendment about tobacco.

NP


The real “power” of the second amendment dates back to only 20 years ago. And so our real gun problems began.
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