Is Shakespeare not taught in DCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Canon.
For the love of all that is good and holy.

Nope, that wasn’t me. I know how to spell cannon. We can ask the administrators if you’d like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a Japanese work, in the English literature class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count . Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.

You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a Japanese work, in the English literature class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count . Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.

You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.

OK, think about this. What is being taught in schools? The DWM cannon, right? Who is teaching it? The white teachers. So the balck and brown kids can't find themselves in the books, and the teachers don't understand their culture, since not everyone has a white heritage, some people have black, latinx, or asian heritage. There's also a whole can of worms with the disciplining, which is truly disproportionate, black kids are punished at a much higher rate then white kids.

If you don't belive me read this, a paper from a faculty at University of Miami, he should know what he is talking about, it's not some lady with a BA in bussiness or something.

Educational scholarship has called attention to the disproportionate ways Black males are disciplined in schools, which has become the catalyst to their entry into the school-to-prison pipeline through which they are funneled from K-12 classrooms into the criminal justice system. Since the majority of teachers are White, it may be insightful to examine the role that they play in the process and how teachers also influence White children's perceptions of Black boys. Drawing from Lortie's (1975/2002) notion of the apprenticeship of observation in teaching, I contend that White children learn how to dehumanize Black male students, particularly as they observe how their White teachers disproportionately target them for minor and subjective school disciplinary infractions. Recommendations are provided for teacher education to prepare teachers to dismantle disproportionate and unfair ways that Black boys are disciplined.

I think there were a few teachers on the thread, you can't say this isn't true.

So I think we should have more diverse sets of literature from authors with different cultures, and also we should priritize the hire of balck and brown teachers, since it is known that they are better at teaching black and brown kids and will not discipline them as much.

[Anonymous]

But if you don't teach Shakespeare and Teh Bible it's the cannon for you! Gawd can we end this thread yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a Japanese work, in the English literature class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count . Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.

You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.

OK, think about this. What is being taught in schools? The DWM cannon, right? Who is teaching it? The white teachers. So the balck and brown kids can't find themselves in the books, and the teachers don't understand their culture, since not everyone has a white heritage, some people have black, latinx, or asian heritage. There's also a whole can of worms with the disciplining, which is truly disproportionate, black kids are punished at a much higher rate then white kids.

If you don't belive me read this, a paper from a faculty at University of Miami, he should know what he is talking about, it's not some lady with a BA in bussiness or something.

Educational scholarship has called attention to the disproportionate ways Black males are disciplined in schools, which has become the catalyst to their entry into the school-to-prison pipeline through which they are funneled from K-12 classrooms into the criminal justice system. Since the majority of teachers are White, it may be insightful to examine the role that they play in the process and how teachers also influence White children's perceptions of Black boys. Drawing from Lortie's (1975/2002) notion of the apprenticeship of observation in teaching, I contend that White children learn how to dehumanize Black male students, particularly as they observe how their White teachers disproportionately target them for minor and subjective school disciplinary infractions. Recommendations are provided for teacher education to prepare teachers to dismantle disproportionate and unfair ways that Black boys are disciplined.

I think there were a few teachers on the thread, you can't say this isn't true.

So I think we should have more diverse sets of literature from authors with different cultures, and also we should priritize the hire of balck and brown teachers, since it is known that they are better at teaching black and brown kids and will not discipline them as much.

Okay, it's just a really indirect connection.

[Anonymous]

As soon as you point the white supremacy on DCUM, the white mommies are coming after you. Lady, your bigotry is showing and it ain't pretty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a Japanese work, in the English literature class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count . Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.

You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.

OK, think about this. What is being taught in schools? The DWM cannon, right? Who is teaching it? The white teachers. So the balck and brown kids can't find themselves in the books, and the teachers don't understand their culture, since not everyone has a white heritage, some people have black, latinx, or asian heritage. There's also a whole can of worms with the disciplining, which is truly disproportionate, black kids are punished at a much higher rate then white kids.

If you don't belive me read this, a paper from a faculty at University of Miami, he should know what he is talking about, it's not some lady with a BA in bussiness or something.

Educational scholarship has called attention to the disproportionate ways Black males are disciplined in schools, which has become the catalyst to their entry into the school-to-prison pipeline through which they are funneled from K-12 classrooms into the criminal justice system. Since the majority of teachers are White, it may be insightful to examine the role that they play in the process and how teachers also influence White children's perceptions of Black boys. Drawing from Lortie's (1975/2002) notion of the apprenticeship of observation in teaching, I contend that White children learn how to dehumanize Black male students, particularly as they observe how their White teachers disproportionately target them for minor and subjective school disciplinary infractions. Recommendations are provided for teacher education to prepare teachers to dismantle disproportionate and unfair ways that Black boys are disciplined.

I think there were a few teachers on the thread, you can't say this isn't true.

So I think we should have more diverse sets of literature from authors with different cultures, and also we should priritize the hire of balck and brown teachers, since it is known that they are better at teaching black and brown kids and will not discipline them as much.

Okay, it's just a really indirect connection.

Easy for you to say since your child is white and won't be disciplined as much as a brown kid. Your racism is showing!

[Anonymous]

Even MacAuliffe is on the same page.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mcauliffe-pledges-diversify-teacher-193629296.html

In Virginia 80% of the teachers are white, but 50% of the students are POC. There is a disproportionality gap that is very problematic. He promises he’ll fix it, but politicians on the campaign trail will promise anything to get elected, we need to hold them accountable.

Why not have a curriculum of live, POC, gender continuum (LPOCGC) instead of dead white male (DWM)? Or we can have 50% white, then the rest authors with diverse cultural background so there’s representation for black, brown, women and transgender.

Shakespeare is still there, your culture is not in danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a Japanese work, in the English literature class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count . Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.

You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.

OK, think about this. What is being taught in schools? The DWM cannon, right? Who is teaching it? The white teachers. So the balck and brown kids can't find themselves in the books, and the teachers don't understand their culture, since not everyone has a white heritage, some people have black, latinx, or asian heritage. There's also a whole can of worms with the disciplining, which is truly disproportionate, black kids are punished at a much higher rate then white kids.

If you don't belive me read this, a paper from a faculty at University of Miami, he should know what he is talking about, it's not some lady with a BA in bussiness or something.

Educational scholarship has called attention to the disproportionate ways Black males are disciplined in schools, which has become the catalyst to their entry into the school-to-prison pipeline through which they are funneled from K-12 classrooms into the criminal justice system. Since the majority of teachers are White, it may be insightful to examine the role that they play in the process and how teachers also influence White children's perceptions of Black boys. Drawing from Lortie's (1975/2002) notion of the apprenticeship of observation in teaching, I contend that White children learn how to dehumanize Black male students, particularly as they observe how their White teachers disproportionately target them for minor and subjective school disciplinary infractions. Recommendations are provided for teacher education to prepare teachers to dismantle disproportionate and unfair ways that Black boys are disciplined.

I think there were a few teachers on the thread, you can't say this isn't true.

So I think we should have more diverse sets of literature from authors with different cultures, and also we should priritize the hire of balck and brown teachers, since it is known that they are better at teaching black and brown kids and will not discipline them as much.

Okay, it's just a really indirect connection.

Easy for you to say since your child is white and won't be disciplined as much as a brown kid. Your racism is showing!

The connection you drew was DWM canon > white teachers > discipline of non-white children > prison

I agree with you that the canon isn't terribly important and that children of color are disciplined more. But that connection you just drew is a clear example of a very indirect connection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As soon as you point the white supremacy on DCUM, the white mommies are coming after you. Lady, your bigotry is showing and it ain't pretty.

That was a very effective argument in Virginia tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even MacAuliffe is on the same page.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mcauliffe-pledges-diversify-teacher-193629296.html

In Virginia 80% of the teachers are white, but 50% of the students are POC. There is a disproportionality gap that is very problematic. He promises he’ll fix it, but politicians on the campaign trail will promise anything to get elected, we need to hold them accountable.

Why not have a curriculum of live, POC, gender continuum (LPOCGC) instead of dead white male (DWM)? Or we can have 50% white, then the rest authors with diverse cultural background so there’s representation for black, brown, women and transgender.

Shakespeare is still there, your culture is not in danger.

File under posts that did not age well.

[Anonymous]

This thread is filled w angry who’re people not from DC.

Murch doesn’t go to 6th grade.

6th grade in ES is only done in VA.

Yes being forced to read Beloved is reverse racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As soon as you point the white supremacy on DCUM, the white mommies are coming after you. Lady, your bigotry is showing and it ain't pretty.

That was a very effective argument in Virginia tonight.

And this is why nice white people should read all those Kendi books listed earlier. Not necessarily your kids but the parents.

I am watching nice white moms in our school read these books and talk about it. Some are married to men of color. They want a better world for their kids. As a mom of color it was so nice to see. They didn’t know if it was helping but they come from very white parts of the country. Things they post and learn about will trickle back when the post on FB, when they go visit parents etc.

If you can’t name a black author besides Toni Morrison, James Baldwin or Maya Angelou you are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As soon as you point the white supremacy on DCUM, the white mommies are coming after you. Lady, your bigotry is showing and it ain't pretty.

That was a very effective argument in Virginia tonight.

And this is why nice white people should read all those Kendi books listed earlier. Not necessarily your kids but the parents.

I am watching nice white moms in our school read these books and talk about it. Some are married to men of color. They want a better world for their kids. As a mom of color it was so nice to see. They didn’t know if it was helping but they come from very white parts of the country. Things they post and learn about will trickle back when the post on FB, when they go visit parents etc.

If you can’t name a black author besides Toni Morrison, James Baldwin or Maya Angelou you are the problem.

Totally agree with you, the Black identity is the most important. It’s definitely not important if you can’t name three South American authors, other people’s culture need to take a step back because their ancestors didn’t face slavery and discrimination. I don’t think three is enough though, I feel the number should be at least into double digits, otherwise you can’t really call yourself an ally.

Nice white people are only nice on the surface, underneath they just want to preserve their privilege. It’s important to remind them they might actually be racist if they don't read Kendi’s books and don’t agree with your point of view. Equally important is to tell people what books to read, otherwise how do they get to have the correct thinking? Nice white people will never understand the experience of a black person in America, but at least they need to do the introspective anti racist work and realize their contribution to the marginalization of people of color. Kendi’s books are excellent in telling nice white people that they are the problem.

Saying this as a parent, it’s all for the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:As soon as you point the white supremacy on DCUM, the white mommies are coming after you. Lady, your bigotry is showing and it ain't pretty.

That was a very effective argument in Virginia tonight.

And this is why nice white people should read all those Kendi books listed earlier. Not necessarily your kids but the parents.

I am watching nice white moms in our school read these books and talk about it. Some are married to men of color. They want a better world for their kids. As a mom of color it was so nice to see. They didn’t know if it was helping but they come from very white parts of the country. Things they post and learn about will trickle back when the post on FB, when they go visit parents etc.

If you can’t name a black author besides Toni Morrison, James Baldwin or Maya Angelou you are the problem.

Many upper class black people, as they stand to benefit the most, make similar arguments, in the vein of emotional blackmail and guilt tripping. "You are part of the problem if... " followed by the hard ask, ranging from entitled to bizarre. "Part of the problem" is a thinly veiled accusation of racism, in this case compounded by an equally horrid accusation of being uncultured since of course many people would have a hard time remembering two or three black authors let alone four. For middle class moms, being an uncultured racist is the worst kind of offence, and they will bend over backwards to prove to the accuser that they are not part of that despised category. At that moment, the accuser is filled with a warm feeling of validation of their social relevance.

I not being able to name four black authors, makes you "part of the problem", then "the problem" is endemic to the entire population of this country, including the vast majority of black folks themselves, and the accusation is meaningless. It doesnt really do much for people living in poverty and lacking access to opportunity, it just denotes upper middle class entitlement.

For the uninitiated, the use of the phrase "nice white people" with its pejorative connotations, needs to be eplained. It made its way into the woke vernacular, via Kendi and DeAngelo books. It is meant to give a false sense of security from accusations of racism, so that the victim thinks to themselves: "I'm white, but I'm actually nice, not like those other whites". Invariably it is followed by a rhetorical twist that proves the contrary. For example, "nice white parents" are exposed as bigots if they dare send they kids to a better school and not to the minority majority neighborhood school that is the product of a failed educational system. For the previous post, one may be awarded the "nice white" title, but it comes with a mandatory reading list.