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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]and just like w any dcum thread

If you question white people, white standards, white hegemony they get testy

Keep your kid reading Shakespeare and I’m sure they will be happy, successful adults with amazing critical thinking skills like you[/quote]

Lady Cannon, you found out about the literary canon existence last week. Last evening you also found out that sometimes is it also called the western canon. Today you are fighting white supremacy, because how kids see themselves described in the books they read.

Just to point again how stupid your comments are, you want students to study Tales of Genji, a [b]Japanese[/b] work, in the [b]English literature[/b] class!

Now for you bragging posts, the intern that brings the coffee is not a professional, 22 year olds are not professionals either, they start at a junior level positions, and through years of hard work become professionals. Nothing to be ashamed of, thats the career trajectory for most people. Also, K street professional is an oxymoron.

100 books this year alone huh? coloring books don't count :). Most people I know, true professionals, not the fake forum variety, have read maybe a quarter to a half of the canon, depending on what lists you look at. But, here it comes the 22 year old blazing through tome after tome and putting them to shame. You dont write like and read 100 books a year, definitely don't organize your ideas well, or have the vocabulary to show for it. If that were the case, how do you confuse cannon with canon?

Old money and prep school? Doesn't matter to me, but since you brought it up, if you lie about your forum identity, the books you read, and your job, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Please tell us more how you are questioning white people, white standards, and white hegemony. Care to elaborate what you mean by questioning and on what those white standards might be? Can you clarify the concept of white hegemony in the context of Shakespeare, and how minorities are affected by it? I think you only scratched the sufrace on this very important topic.
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You are responding to multiple people but acting as though we are one person. I’m sure the admin of DCUM can confirm we are not and even if he does not, I have no reason to form a petty lie.

And if you do not understand that children only reading literature by white people in school is a problem, you are too far up your own bum for anyone to pull you out.[/quote]

New poster. I'd like to understand how it is a problem, you mentioned that the new generation needs to challenge white standards and white hegemony, I'm totally for disrupting the school to prison pipeline but how do we go about doing it? I mean, we should start at school first, since it comes before prison in the school to prison pipeline. That's where we need to focus at. We need to take a stand and fix everything that's problematic. If kids only see themselves in the books as slaves, bombings, and other bad things that happened, that can't be good for them. But if they only read DWM books, that men decided among themselves that are good, I think we need to change that. The white standards are the tests that all kids take and all the questions are from DWM books, that's not fair for the POC kids.[/quote]

Like, I'm sort of with you on a lot of this but if you could go into a little bit more depth on the connection you see between school-to-prison and the "canon," I would appreciate it.[/quote]

I don't want to speak for the other posters in the forum, they can do it for themselves. The way I see it if all the books kids are reading in school are from the cannon of DWM (btw that is dead white male for those who don't know) they won't find themselves in the books, and won't develop a true passion for reading. We need to center POC experiences over white males, and I'm not saying replace, there will always be Shakespeare to read but at least add to the cannon. For the whiny moms, relax, your genious kid won't grow up without the books you had when you were growing up. Some posters put on some very good anti-rasist books, they should be taught, especially to people that don't know what white privilege is. Ok, maybe not english literature, but they would find a good place in social studies, or we can just call it literature and teach all those good books.[/quote]

I'm with you but I didn't get the connection to the school-to-prison-pipeline there.[/quote]

OK, think about this. What is being taught in schools? The DWM cannon, right? Who is teaching it? The white teachers. So the balck and brown kids can't find themselves in the books, and the teachers don't understand their culture, since not everyone has a white heritage, some people have black, latinx, or asian heritage. There's also a whole can of worms with the disciplining, which is truly disproportionate, black kids are punished at a much higher rate then white kids.

If you don't belive me read this, a paper from a faculty at University of Miami, he should know what he is talking about, it's not some lady with a BA in bussiness or something.

[quote]Educational scholarship has called attention to the disproportionate ways Black males are disciplined in schools, which has become the catalyst to their entry into the school-to-prison pipeline through which they are funneled from K-12 classrooms into the criminal justice system. Since the majority of teachers are White, it may be insightful to examine the role that they play in the process and how teachers also influence White children's perceptions of Black boys. Drawing from Lortie's (1975/2002) notion of the apprenticeship of observation in teaching, I contend that White children learn how to dehumanize Black male students, particularly as they observe how their White teachers disproportionately target them for minor and subjective school disciplinary infractions. Recommendations are provided for teacher education to prepare teachers to dismantle disproportionate and unfair ways that Black boys are disciplined.[/quote]

I think there were a few teachers on the thread, you can't say this isn't true.

So I think we should have more diverse sets of literature from authors with different cultures, and also we should priritize the hire of balck and brown teachers, since it is known that they are better at teaching black and brown kids and will not discipline them as much.
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Okay, it's just a really indirect connection.[/quote]

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