APS & streaming CCPTA meetings?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG equity and diversity are listed as #4, but these are “equally weighted factors.” So it could have been listed as #1 and it was supposed to be as important as the other factors.
Clearly CCPTA needs to promote reading comprehension instead. Find another source of rage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG equity and diversity are listed as #4, but these are “equally weighted factors.” So it could have been listed as #1 and it was supposed to be as important as the other factors.
Clearly CCPTA needs to promote reading comprehension instead. Find another source of rage.

Give up, folks. This person clearly has a personal beef with CCPTA and isn't going to let-up. This thread should end. Continuing to respond is merely feeding the ignorant beast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

I’ll the Title 1 schools that can’t afford their own Soom accounts that you think this access was duplicative. Either you’re a troll or very stupid. Probably both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

I’ll the Title 1 schools that can’t afford their own Soom accounts that you think this access was duplicative. Either you’re a troll or very stupid. Probably both.

Not only that, but this zoom package was purchased because it allows for simultaneous translation services during a meeting, which is not available with regular individual subscriptions, specifically to allow PTAs to hold meetings that allow non-native English speakers to listen to PTA meetings via a separate translator channel. And this option is being used by the PTAs. In support of equity and inclusion of the entire school community.

Keep digging yourself deeper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

I’ll the Title 1 schools that can’t afford their own Soom accounts that you think this access was duplicative. Either you’re a troll or very stupid. Probably both.

So give us some real metrics - how many schools in APS are using the CCPTA account?

Not every PTA knew it was available to use. Was this shared the Presidents? on Twitter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

I’ll the Title 1 schools that can’t afford their own Soom accounts that you think this access was duplicative. Either you’re a troll or very stupid. Probably both.

So give us some real metrics - how many schools in APS are using the CCPTA account?

Not every PTA knew it was available to use. Was this shared the Presidents? on Twitter?

If you were involved with CCPTA, you'd know it was available and whether it was shared with the presidents. If your PTA were involved with CCPTA and appropriately keeping its community informed, you'd know it was available and whether it was shared with the presidents. CCPTA uses an email distribution list for all of its reps and PTA presidents. As long as those contacts are up-to-date (which oftentimes the PTAs do not update or update timely with a change in officers and appointed reps), all of those people are kept informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the CCPTA doing to help with Equity in APS? The grant program and training is just "Rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship".

The CCPTA should take a leadership role in making our schools and student body more equitable instead of just hiding behind the same old 'walkability' argument. Even the 2021 proposed 'determining factors' of Transportation Efficiency, Utilization, Stability and Diversity/Equity places EQUITY last on the list. I hate to tell you but driving EQUITY in APS needs to make some well to do families families uncomfortable. https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

The CCPTA needs to take a leadership role to drive EQUITY and not just high five each other for redistributing a few thousand bucks, doing some training and recommending policies that will just perpetuate the current inequities across APS.

I agree with you that CCPTA should and can be the leading advocate on equity and related issues. But CCPTA made boundary policy change recommendations 2 or 3 years ago that specifically addressed the socioeconomic diversity issue. It did not put equity "last" but actually raised its importance by making it an equal part of the "formula." I think it streamlined the current 6 boundary principles into 4 because things like "proximity" and "stability" overlap and included other specific recommendations to highlight the demographics in the various boundary scenario proposals, etc.

Beyond advocacy, what do you think CCPTA can actually do to affect equity? What policies is CCPTA pushing that perpetuates the status quo? The grant and partnership programs are at least something they can actually implement; and running those programs at least starts to increase awareness, brings some people from different schools together, and proffers some assistance for poorer schools until the County and APS finally decide to enact other changes. It isn't a complete and instantaneous solution. But it's better than nothing and more than has been done in the past. I do wish they would focus on more things beyond the basics of providing food and clothes. But the pandemic made those needs even more urgent and it was really the only way for PTAs to help each other since nothing was going on in the actual school buildings.

CCPTA's profile and stature has increased in the past few years. I think Maura McMahon did a good job in making CCPTA more of an active player and raising its visibility, getting SB and APS leadership to take more notice. I think she also re-started having County Board members attend meetings. CCPTA never really tried to be an influential policy changer before and it takes time for a group to develop and gain real influence.

So, if you think you know what CCPTA should be doing, please share.

Did the CCPTA really spend 2k on a Zoom Account? How is that even possible? That must be a group account every PTA in APS can use for that kind of $$$$.

Diversity and Inclusion Training - why not open it to all PTA members?

What the CCPTA should be doing is taking a leadership role in making APS more equitable. It seems like the opposite is happening. The reality is that poverty is being concentrated and the schools are getting less diverse. Every boundary change seems to be going in the WRONG DIRECTION.

But hey - maybe that is the role of the CCPTA just smile and keep celebrating the wins that are taking APS in the wrong direction.

Equity is the LAST consideration in the CCPTA Recommendations Regarding Boundary Change and Option School Move Policies and Processes March 2021
https://ccpta.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/03/CCPTA-Boundary-Change-and-School-Move-Recommendations.pdf

Four Determining Factors :
1. Transportation Efficiency
2. Utilization
3. Stability
4. Diversity and Equity

Change is hard and should make people feel uncomfortable. That is what real leadership does. Equity as the last part of the last factor is giving up.

It is. They have been letting the PTA use the Zoom link for their meetings. Ours does. Really, you are embarrassing yourself.

This again is where the CCPTA embarrasses itself. No Accountability, No Metrics, No Scorecard. What does success look like? Maybe 70% of the APS PTAs using it? Just another me too high 5. This is money that could be used for the students...but wasted on duplicative ZOOM accounts.

I’ll the Title 1 schools that can’t afford their own Soom accounts that you think this access was duplicative. Either you’re a troll or very stupid. Probably both.

Both.