APS & streaming CCPTA meetings?

[Anonymous]

^agendas^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

I can't seem to find the agenda's posted online - maybe you can share the link to these openly published agendas?

https://ccpta.apsva.us/ccpta-documents/

Is membership optional?

I said they *should* publish agendas.

Membership is not optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

This isn't the first time I've read the accusation on this forum that Kadera had a pet project at CCPTA but hasn't indicated what that project was. Perhaps you could share?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

[Anonymous]

The CCPTA is just a girls club with special access to Duran, Stengle and the School Board.

They don't want the general membership to have access to the inner circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CCPTA is just a girls club with special access to Duran, Stengle and the School Board.

They don't want the general membership to have access to the inner circle.

BS.
Lots of male reps and a history of male officers.
Aside from one-one-one monthly meetings with Dr. Murphy (don't know if Duran has continued with this) and the CCPTA president in preparing the agenda for the monthly meeting, there is no special access to APS staff. No more than a PTA president with its principal and administration by virtue of their position and the role of the PTA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

I have been involved.

It’s not that hard to share an agenda and zoom link. They definitely have their own zoom account, Twitter, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

I have been involved.

It’s not that hard to share an agenda and zoom link. They definitely have their own zoom account, Twitter, etc.

Why would they share it with you, personally? Do they have your email? Have you asked your PTA Pres and/or CCPTA rep for the links? Good grief. Problem solve rather than complain and expect that anyone knows you’re sitting at home stewing that they’re up to something (what exactly do you think it is?) and personally excluding you from meetings you want to attend? JFC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

I have been involved.

It’s not that hard to share an agenda and zoom link. They definitely have their own zoom account, Twitter, etc.

Why would they share it with you, personally? Do they have your email? Have you asked your PTA Pres and/or CCPTA rep for the links? Good grief. Problem solve rather than complain and expect that anyone knows you’re sitting at home stewing that they’re up to something (what exactly do you think it is?) and personally excluding you from meetings you want to attend? JFC

I do get the agenda and sometimes participate. I read the minutes when I can’t join. I do know what they’ve been doing. Do you?

I’m saying they should make joining the meeting easier for everyone. Post the meeting info on their Twitter account. Post the agenda and info on how to join. Encourage people to join. None of these are difficult things.

Why TF are you so against making the meeting more accessible to more families? It could be a good resource to advocate for APS students if more people were involved and they weren’t distracted by nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Why not just record and post the meetings?

Or are they doing some kind of voodoo?

Are they considered public meetings?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not just record and post the meetings?

Or are they doing some kind of voodoo?

Are they considered public meetings?

Even better. Zoom makes this very easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

I have been involved.

It’s not that hard to share an agenda and zoom link. They definitely have their own zoom account, Twitter, etc.

Why would they share it with you, personally? Do they have your email? Have you asked your PTA Pres and/or CCPTA rep for the links? Good grief. Problem solve rather than complain and expect that anyone knows you’re sitting at home stewing that they’re up to something (what exactly do you think it is?) and personally excluding you from meetings you want to attend? JFC

I do get the agenda and sometimes participate. I read the minutes when I can’t join. I do know what they’ve been doing. Do you?

I’m saying they should make joining the meeting easier for everyone. Post the meeting info on their Twitter account. Post the agenda and info on how to join. Encourage people to join. None of these are difficult things.

Why TF are you so against making the meeting more accessible to more families? It could be a good resource to advocate for APS students if more people were involved and they weren’t distracted by nonsense.

I’m not. But you make it sound like it’s a purposefully exclusive thing, when it’s more likely that everyone is just stretched thin and things like posting to social media or updating the website have fallen by the wayside during this crazy year. Seems like you might volunteer to take this on, since you are involved? Also, ask your own school rep to publicize the meeting information, or offer to do it, so your school community is kept informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The meetings should absolutely be open to all dues-paying PTA members.

As responses have indicated, they are welcomed to attend. But it's the PTA that is the dues-paying member of CCPTA. Individual school parents pay dues to their individual school's PTA, not to CCPTA. They appoint - or should appoint - a CCPTA representative to be their voice. The problem is, most CCPTA reps don't actually report back to their PTAs and most PTAs don't really care enough to devote time in their meetings to CCPTA business/news. School PTAs are too focused on fundraising and doing more and more for their school, rather than tending to the advocacy PTAs are supposed to be doing.

So don't criticize CCPTA. Criticize your PTA and if you think they should be more engaged at the CCPTA level, then push them to become more engaged and volunteer to be their rep.

In addition to "being welcome", the CCPTA should openly publish agendas and meeting details. Everyone who pays dues to their PTA is funding the CCPTA (and VAPTA/National PTA).

I'm sure plenty of people would have liked to have known in advance that Kadera sucked up all CCPTA resources this past year to work on her pet project instead of the pandemic...

Sore loser. If you had been involved, bro, you’d already know all this information. FOIAs didn’t turn up anything, so now you want to b**** about something else you don’t understand because you couldn’t be bothered before now. Take your tired accusations and stuff them. There’s nothing hidden or nefarious. You’re just uninformed. Ask your PTA Pres or CCPTA rep, if you’re on speaking terms.

F off.

I voted for Kadera because she was less horrible than the APE nut. And I have attended CCPTA meetings myself. My gripe is how widely publicized and practically “open” the meetings are are for all APS families. They should know what CCPTA is up to...

Then get involved directly with CCPTA. Make your individual school PTA become more engaged and communicative about CCPTA and its activities and efforts. It's not a closed meeting. The public can observe. CCPTA hasn't been as technically saavy and resourced and doesn't currently have the wherewithal to stream meetings.

I have been involved.

It’s not that hard to share an agenda and zoom link. They definitely have their own zoom account, Twitter, etc.

Why would they share it with you, personally? Do they have your email? Have you asked your PTA Pres and/or CCPTA rep for the links? Good grief. Problem solve rather than complain and expect that anyone knows you’re sitting at home stewing that they’re up to something (what exactly do you think it is?) and personally excluding you from meetings you want to attend? JFC

I do get the agenda and sometimes participate. I read the minutes when I can’t join. I do know what they’ve been doing. Do you?

I’m saying they should make joining the meeting easier for everyone. Post the meeting info on their Twitter account. Post the agenda and info on how to join. Encourage people to join. None of these are difficult things.

Why TF are you so against making the meeting more accessible to more families? It could be a good resource to advocate for APS students if more people were involved and they weren’t distracted by nonsense.

I’m not. But you make it sound like it’s a purposefully exclusive thing, when it’s more likely that everyone is just stretched thin and things like posting to social media or updating the website have fallen by the wayside during this crazy year. Seems like you might volunteer to take this on, since you are involved? Also, ask your own school rep to publicize the meeting information, or offer to do it, so your school community is kept informed.

Are you the PP who wrote “sore loser” above and made a series of false assumptions? Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder.

Whatever the reason, they should be more open and inclusive. Not even sure why this has been disputed.