Demi Lovato now they/them

[Anonymous]

Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. This trend bothers me so much on behalf of actual trans people who feel they were born the wrong sex. Is Demi aware that you can be gay and dress masculine and still be she/her? Does she know that to be a “woman” you don’t have to wear dresses and be 100% feminine? Most women aren’t like that anyway. There is such a misogynistic bent to this behavior, it disgusts me.

Who are you to deem them any less trans than an “actual trans” person?

She’s not saying she’s trans though, is she? That’s the problem.

I don't find it to be a problem. But no they are not coming out as trans.

I think nonbinary is actually great for especially queer kids to see. They don't have to commit to transitioning just because they don't feel particularly "right" in their assigned gender.

That said, I would not be shocked if Demi is trying on a ton of identities much in order to make themselves feel "OK now". It seems more like a desperate search for the truth that will make things all better, not a revelation about the truth that was always sitting there. Not sure if that makes sense.

ONE LAST TIME: YOU ARE NOT ASSIGNED A “GENDER” AT BIRTH. YOU ARE ASSIGNED A “SEX”. IF YOU ARE A MASCULINE FEMALE, YOU CAN STILL BE A SHE/HER FEMALE. WHAT MAKES YOU TRANS IS WHEN YOU ARE DISGUSTED BY YOUR BODY AND FEEL YOU HAVE THE LITERAL WRONG GENITALIA. IT’S NOT SOME “I LIKE DRESSES BUT I HAVE A DICK” OR “I DON’T WANT TO DRESS FEMININE AND I’M A LESBIAN” THING. IT’S BODY DYSMORPHIA. STOP BEING SO STUPID.


Sheesh.

DP. You aren’t “assigned” a sex at birth. It’s determined by your biology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are so annoying.

Came here to say this.

I used to be a semi fan/feel bad for them. However, after the froyo incident and now this egh. They are the definition of annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. This trend bothers me so much on behalf of actual trans people who feel they were born the wrong sex. Is Demi aware that you can be gay and dress masculine and still be she/her? Does she know that to be a “woman” you don’t have to wear dresses and be 100% feminine? Most women aren’t like that anyway. There is such a misogynistic bent to this behavior, it disgusts me.

Who are you to deem them any less trans than an “actual trans” person?

She’s not saying she’s trans though, is she? That’s the problem.

I don't find it to be a problem. But no they are not coming out as trans.

I think nonbinary is actually great for especially queer kids to see. They don't have to commit to transitioning just because they don't feel particularly "right" in their assigned gender.

That said, I would not be shocked if Demi is trying on a ton of identities much in order to make themselves feel "OK now". It seems more like a desperate search for the truth that will make things all better, not a revelation about the truth that was always sitting there. Not sure if that makes sense.

ONE LAST TIME: YOU ARE NOT ASSIGNED A “GENDER” AT BIRTH. YOU ARE ASSIGNED A “SEX”. IF YOU ARE A MASCULINE FEMALE, YOU CAN STILL BE A SHE/HER FEMALE. WHAT MAKES YOU TRANS IS WHEN YOU ARE DISGUSTED BY YOUR BODY AND FEEL YOU HAVE THE LITERAL WRONG GENITALIA. IT’S NOT SOME “I LIKE DRESSES BUT I HAVE A DICK” OR “I DON’T WANT TO DRESS FEMININE AND I’M A LESBIAN” THING. IT’S BODY DYSMORPHIA. STOP BEING SO STUPID.


Sheesh.

You are splitting hairs here. Yes, we as a society DO assign genders to people, almost always in a binary paradigm, according to their external sex traits. We just do. Which is obviously problematic for a portion of people because we should be assigning sex vs. gender in a different manner but in practice we DON'T.

I don't even know what your ranting means in the bolded. What makes you trans is "being literally disgusted" is such and outdated way of thinking about trans people, as you know THEY will tell everyone themselves. There is more than 1 way to be trans. more than 1 way to be nonbinary.

You are trying to sound like an authority on this when you clearly aren't

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

How about asking the people who use they/them pronouns how they feel helped by them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. This trend bothers me so much on behalf of actual trans people who feel they were born the wrong sex. Is Demi aware that you can be gay and dress masculine and still be she/her? Does she know that to be a “woman” you don’t have to wear dresses and be 100% feminine? Most women aren’t like that anyway. There is such a misogynistic bent to this behavior, it disgusts me.

Who are you to deem them any less trans than an “actual trans” person?

She’s not saying she’s trans though, is she? That’s the problem.

I don't find it to be a problem. But no they are not coming out as trans.

I think nonbinary is actually great for especially queer kids to see. They don't have to commit to transitioning just because they don't feel particularly "right" in their assigned gender.

That said, I would not be shocked if Demi is trying on a ton of identities much in order to make themselves feel "OK now". It seems more like a desperate search for the truth that will make things all better, not a revelation about the truth that was always sitting there. Not sure if that makes sense.

ONE LAST TIME: YOU ARE NOT ASSIGNED A “GENDER” AT BIRTH. YOU ARE ASSIGNED A “SEX”. IF YOU ARE A MASCULINE FEMALE, YOU CAN STILL BE A SHE/HER FEMALE. WHAT MAKES YOU TRANS IS WHEN YOU ARE DISGUSTED BY YOUR BODY AND FEEL YOU HAVE THE LITERAL WRONG GENITALIA. IT’S NOT SOME “I LIKE DRESSES BUT I HAVE A DICK” OR “I DON’T WANT TO DRESS FEMININE AND I’M A LESBIAN” THING. IT’S BODY DYSMORPHIA. STOP BEING SO STUPID.


Sheesh.

You are splitting hairs here. Yes, we as a society DO assign genders to people, almost always in a binary paradigm, according to their external sex traits. We just do. Which is obviously problematic for a portion of people because we should be assigning sex vs. gender in a different manner but in practice we DON'T.

I don't even know what your ranting means in the bolded. What makes you trans is "being literally disgusted" is such and outdated way of thinking about trans people, as you know THEY will tell everyone themselves. There is more than 1 way to be trans. more than 1 way to be nonbinary.

You are trying to sound like an authority on this when you clearly aren't

NP. I don’t ever remember being assigned a gender. When does this usually take place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

How about asking the people who use they/them pronouns how they feel helped by them?

I’d probably mess up a pronoun since I know people like Demi are actually women (as do you), and then I’d get cancelled by the PC police.

By the way, please refer to me in future posts as “She God, the Dragon Slayer.”

[Anonymous]

Good for them! Why the hate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. There’s been some fundamental shift in thinking on this, and I (and many of my fellow GenXers) just don’t get it. It’s the polar opposite of the messaging we got as kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

Actually as a non-girly girl. It was not easily accepted by family. I was forced to wear dresses, etc. It was not better or easier.

I’m glad non-binary people can stop being put in a box that disgusts them.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m giving away my age here, but back in my day (1990s and 2000s), if you didn’t want to be a girly girl, you just weren’t a girly girl. I don’t understand this misogynistic attention seeking behavior. Look at me! I’m not like other girls. I’m “non-binary” and you can refer to me in the plural. Who gives a shit. Time to break down gender stereotypes, not continue to propagate them with this crap.

+1. Totally agree. What’s the need for all these labels? How are they helping? What happened to just accepting everyone no matter how they like to spend their time, what they wear, how short their hair is, etc. I agree that misogyny plays a large role here.

How about asking the people who use they/them pronouns how they feel helped by them?

I’d probably mess up a pronoun since I know people like Demi are actually women (as do you), and then I’d get cancelled by the PC police.

By the way, please refer to me in future posts as “She God, the Dragon Slayer.”

I’ll just call you f’ing B*tch because like you I don’t respect your request to be called your preferred label.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This woman is either starving for attention (yet again) or has completely gone off the rails. When will she realize nobody cares? She’s a has been.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/19/entertainment/demi-lovato-nonbinary-intl-scli/index.html

You cared enough to go out of your way to start a thread, though.

[Anonymous]

Southern, Christian and LGBTQ+

No wonder she is having mental health issues.

[Anonymous]

Demi’s 9th attempt at staying relevant in 2021.... after a failed album! Ha!