With Woodward High School opening, are they also going to change the MS boundaries?

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

Conversely, some kids are happy to have a chance to make a fresh start in high school.

Instability is good for kids, said no one ever.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering about when Woodward HS opens 2026, and MCPS redraws boundaries for Woodward, WJ and I am assuming Einstein, are they also going to redraw the boundaries for North Bethesda MS, Tilden MS and Silver Creek MS?

For example, DS will be in MS in 2026 - what is the likelyhood he will stay with his cohort through 8th grade or will they all be split up?

Yes, the Woodward HS boundary study will include the DCC (or at least that's the current plan).

And yes, you should assume that there will also be changes in which middle schools go to which high schools.

DP. Though Silver Creek may not be part of it, since they're neither WJ nor DCC clusters. The middle schools I would expect to be part of the boundary study would be North Bethesda, Tilden and the DCC middle schools they're adjacent to: Newport Mill, Loiederman, and Parkland.

The MS consortium are no where close to Woodward. I would suspect Silver Creek would get moved to Woodward given the proximity to WJ/location.

Woodward to Silver Creek: 4.4 miles
Woodward to Loiederman: 4.5 miles

Loiederman is heavily Hispanic and low income. They wouldn't fit into the W crowd. Move Silver Creek.

Exactly--that's how you get diverse schools, by combining people from different backgrounds.

Except those kids don't want to be bused in nor to the kids there want them there. They want diversity in terms of race, not income. They don't want poor FARMS kids. Read the threads over the Einstein attacks here.

Like it or not kids from Loiederman and/or Newport Mill are going to end up at Woodward with kids from WJ, the horror!

Not if the families currently at those schools have anything to say about it. No one wants their kids bused that far.

Please stop acting like you speak for everyone. My children are at a Newport Mill feeder and I would rather them bused the whole 4.5 miles (Omg how will they survive 😱) to Woodward rather than stay at a severely overcrowded school. I have no issue with Einstein, but if my choice is either stay at Einstein but it’s overcrowded, or go to brand new Woodward with no overcrowding, I’m taking Woodward and the 4.5 mile bus ride.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

It sounds like MCPS should be building a high school in the eastern part of the DCC instead of or in addition to Woodward which is pretty far west. I don't have a horse in this race but looking at a map, this would seems to make more sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering about when Woodward HS opens 2026, and MCPS redraws boundaries for Woodward, WJ and I am assuming Einstein, are they also going to redraw the boundaries for North Bethesda MS, Tilden MS and Silver Creek MS?

For example, DS will be in MS in 2026 - what is the likelyhood he will stay with his cohort through 8th grade or will they all be split up?

Yes, the Woodward HS boundary study will include the DCC (or at least that's the current plan).

And yes, you should assume that there will also be changes in which middle schools go to which high schools.

DP. Though Silver Creek may not be part of it, since they're neither WJ nor DCC clusters. The middle schools I would expect to be part of the boundary study would be North Bethesda, Tilden and the DCC middle schools they're adjacent to: Newport Mill, Loiederman, and Parkland.

The MS consortium are no where close to Woodward. I would suspect Silver Creek would get moved to Woodward given the proximity to WJ/location.

Woodward to Silver Creek: 4.4 miles
Woodward to Loiederman: 4.5 miles

Loiederman is heavily Hispanic and low income. They wouldn't fit into the W crowd. Move Silver Creek.

Exactly--that's how you get diverse schools, by combining people from different backgrounds.

Except those kids don't want to be bused in nor to the kids there want them there. They want diversity in terms of race, not income. They don't want poor FARMS kids. Read the threads over the Einstein attacks here.

Like it or not kids from Loiederman and/or Newport Mill are going to end up at Woodward with kids from WJ, the horror!

Not if the families currently at those schools have anything to say about it. No one wants their kids bused that far.

Please stop acting like you speak for everyone. My children are at a Newport Mill feeder and I would rather them bused the whole 4.5 miles (Omg how will they survive 😱) to Woodward rather than stay at a severely overcrowded school. I have no issue with Einstein, but if my choice is either stay at Einstein but it’s overcrowded, or go to brand new Woodward with no overcrowding, I’m taking Woodward and the 4.5 mile bus ride.

That's cool. I was just judging by my experience with the RM#5 boundary study when MCPS floated the idea of busing Twinbrook kids 4 miles to Ritchie Park and Twinbrook families told MCPS to take a hike. That wasn't a new school though, so I can see what you're saying.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

It sounds like MCPS should be building a high school in the eastern part of the DCC instead of or in addition to Woodward which is pretty far west. I don't have a horse in this race but looking at a map, this would seems to make more sense.

Where though? It's hard to find a high-school-sized plot of land in the DCC. I still think the former hospital in Takoma Park would be the best site for another HS, but I guess it's out of MCPS's reach.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

It sounds like MCPS should be building a high school in the eastern part of the DCC instead of or in addition to Woodward which is pretty far west. I don't have a horse in this race but looking at a map, this would seems to make more sense.

In a perfect world, I think a lot of DCC parents (myself included) would have preferred this, but to be fair WJ is also absurdly overcrowded so Woodward is in a location that can help both the overcrowding at WJ and at Einstein. As you may have seen in other threads, there are kids in Kensington bused to WJ that are in walking distance to Einstein, so it’s not like the 4-5 mile bus ride from some of the Einstein feeders to Woodward is too terrible because there are kids in the same area being bused just as far to go to WJ.

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I'm not sure why they decided not to build an addition onto Einstein. That would also be more sensible. It's current capacity is only 1600 or so.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

Conversely, some kids are happy to have a chance to make a fresh start in high school.

Many more kids are happy to keep some old friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering about when Woodward HS opens 2026, and MCPS redraws boundaries for Woodward, WJ and I am assuming Einstein, are they also going to redraw the boundaries for North Bethesda MS, Tilden MS and Silver Creek MS?

For example, DS will be in MS in 2026 - what is the likelyhood he will stay with his cohort through 8th grade or will they all be split up?

Yes, the Woodward HS boundary study will include the DCC (or at least that's the current plan).

And yes, you should assume that there will also be changes in which middle schools go to which high schools.

DP. Though Silver Creek may not be part of it, since they're neither WJ nor DCC clusters. The middle schools I would expect to be part of the boundary study would be North Bethesda, Tilden and the DCC middle schools they're adjacent to: Newport Mill, Loiederman, and Parkland.

The MS consortium are no where close to Woodward. I would suspect Silver Creek would get moved to Woodward given the proximity to WJ/location.

Woodward to Silver Creek: 4.4 miles
Woodward to Loiederman: 4.5 miles

Loiederman is heavily Hispanic and low income. They wouldn't fit into the W crowd. Move Silver Creek.

Exactly--that's how you get diverse schools, by combining people from different backgrounds.

Except those kids don't want to be bused in nor to the kids there want them there. They want diversity in terms of race, not income. They don't want poor FARMS kids. Read the threads over the Einstein attacks here.

Like it or not kids from Loiederman and/or Newport Mill are going to end up at Woodward with kids from WJ, the horror!

Not if the families currently at those schools have anything to say about it. No one wants their kids bused that far.

Please stop acting like you speak for everyone. My children are at a Newport Mill feeder and I would rather them bused the whole 4.5 miles (Omg how will they survive 😱) to Woodward rather than stay at a severely overcrowded school. I have no issue with Einstein, but if my choice is either stay at Einstein but it’s overcrowded, or go to brand new Woodward with no overcrowding, I’m taking Woodward and the 4.5 mile bus ride.

That's cool. I was just judging by my experience with the RM#5 boundary study when MCPS floated the idea of busing Twinbrook kids 4 miles to Ritchie Park and Twinbrook families told MCPS to take a hike. That wasn't a new school though, so I can see what you're saying.

Lol, sorry I assumed you were the crazy boundary poster! I would definitely be more pro staying at Einstein if not for the overcrowding problem. I don’t want my kids at an overcrowded school when a brand new uncrowded school is only 4-5 miles away. If the brand new uncrowded option was say 10-15 miles away, probably a different story, but the short distance between Einstein and Woodward makes it a no-brainer for me, but I know others feel differently.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why they decided not to build an addition onto Einstein. That would also be more sensible. It's current capacity is only 1600 or so.

Because BCC and Whitman got expansions

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering about when Woodward HS opens 2026, and MCPS redraws boundaries for Woodward, WJ and I am assuming Einstein, are they also going to redraw the boundaries for North Bethesda MS, Tilden MS and Silver Creek MS?

For example, DS will be in MS in 2026 - what is the likelyhood he will stay with his cohort through 8th grade or will they all be split up?

Yes, the Woodward HS boundary study will include the DCC (or at least that's the current plan).

And yes, you should assume that there will also be changes in which middle schools go to which high schools.

DP. Though Silver Creek may not be part of it, since they're neither WJ nor DCC clusters. The middle schools I would expect to be part of the boundary study would be North Bethesda, Tilden and the DCC middle schools they're adjacent to: Newport Mill, Loiederman, and Parkland.

The MS consortium are no where close to Woodward. I would suspect Silver Creek would get moved to Woodward given the proximity to WJ/location.

Woodward to Silver Creek: 4.4 miles
Woodward to Loiederman: 4.5 miles

Loiederman is heavily Hispanic and low income. They wouldn't fit into the W crowd. Move Silver Creek.

Exactly--that's how you get diverse schools, by combining people from different backgrounds.

Except those kids don't want to be bused in nor to the kids there want them there. They want diversity in terms of race, not income. They don't want poor FARMS kids. Read the threads over the Einstein attacks here.

Like it or not kids from Loiederman and/or Newport Mill are going to end up at Woodward with kids from WJ, the horror!

Not if the families currently at those schools have anything to say about it. No one wants their kids bused that far.

Please stop acting like you speak for everyone. My children are at a Newport Mill feeder and I would rather them bused the whole 4.5 miles (Omg how will they survive 😱) to Woodward rather than stay at a severely overcrowded school. I have no issue with Einstein, but if my choice is either stay at Einstein but it’s overcrowded, or go to brand new Woodward with no overcrowding, I’m taking Woodward and the 4.5 mile bus ride.

That's cool. I was just judging by my experience with the RM#5 boundary study when MCPS floated the idea of busing Twinbrook kids 4 miles to Ritchie Park and Twinbrook families told MCPS to take a hike. That wasn't a new school though, so I can see what you're saying.

Lol, sorry I assumed you were the crazy boundary poster! I would definitely be more pro staying at Einstein if not for the overcrowding problem. I don’t want my kids at an overcrowded school when a brand new uncrowded school is only 4-5 miles away. If the brand new uncrowded option was say 10-15 miles away, probably a different story, but the short distance between Einstein and Woodward makes it a no-brainer for me, but I know others feel differently.

No worries. I actually feel differently. Our ES is crumbling but we love it. It's like a weird badge of honor that we deal with it (as long as it's not deemed unsafe). It's not as overcrowded as what you're experiencing though, so I might feel differently if that was the case.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

It sounds like MCPS should be building a high school in the eastern part of the DCC instead of or in addition to Woodward which is pretty far west. I don't have a horse in this race but looking at a map, this would seems to make more sense.

Where though? It's hard to find a high-school-sized plot of land in the DCC. I still think the former hospital in Takoma Park would be the best site for another HS, but I guess it's out of MCPS's reach.

They could take the land reserved for the Takoma Park Nuclear Power Company and use that for a school.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent, I think it’s crappy for kids to lose their MS friends when going into a HS. Particularly for girls, it is HARD to make friends at that age. It takes a lot of girls most of MS to find a group they are comfortable with, and then to split that group in two and send them to two different HS? (Or worse—have your daughter be the only one in her friend group not going to WJ or WW.). Clearly it’s not terrible on the level of being a refugee is terrible—but it’s not great. The idea of having to live that agony twice with a teen girl is really, really unappetizing to me as a parent.

I totally understand this, but I also look at it this way, it would be really crappy if they said ok, we’re going to send all of Tilden to Woodward and then a feeder from Wheaton and a feeder from Einstein. Not only are they busing those kids from Wheaton and/or Einstein into a school where everyone is unfamiliar, but they are each their own tiny segment of the school population while an entire MS of UMC kids from WJ joined Woodward together. To me that is setting those kids up for a miserable experience. I almost feel like Woodward should be all split matriculations so there isn’t that type of divide set up from the outset.

Why would they need to bus any kids there from Wheaton or Einstein?

The DCC schools are very overcrowded and the objectives of the reopening of Woodward are to relieve overcrowding at the DCC and WJ. Northwood is getting an expansion which should help with Blair’s overcrowding, and Einstein (which is only slightly less overcrowded than WJ and Blair) and Wheaton are the schools closest to Woodward, so it stands to reason those are the schools that will have feeders sent to Woodward to alleviate overcrowding.

It sounds like MCPS should be building a high school in the eastern part of the DCC instead of or in addition to Woodward which is pretty far west. I don't have a horse in this race but looking at a map, this would seems to make more sense.

In a perfect world, I think a lot of DCC parents (myself included) would have preferred this, but to be fair WJ is also absurdly overcrowded so Woodward is in a location that can help both the overcrowding at WJ and at Einstein. As you may have seen in other threads, there are kids in Kensington bused to WJ that are in walking distance to Einstein, so it’s not like the 4-5 mile bus ride from some of the Einstein feeders to Woodward is too terrible because there are kids in the same area being bused just as far to go to WJ.

It depends on the person. Between after school activities, private sports and music lessons us getting ours back and forthwotld be a nightmare.