With Woodward High School opening, are they also going to change the MS boundaries?

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Do tell, how is anti-racism racism? I’d love your specific answer, especially give that race is a primary variable in student performance even when controlled for SES. Poverty is not a proxy for race. Black men raised in wealthy families are less likely than their white wealthy male peers to graduate from college. Black children of college graduates are less like than their white peers to graduate from college. Tests are also disproportionately disadvantageous to black students, particularly black girls. Race does matter. And we see this not just in educational outcomes but in areas like medicine, too. Why does that bother you? Until we fix root issues of racism and bias, we’ll never shake inequality and racism and hold all students back - and our society and economy back. Though, obviously, some people like the status quo ....

NP. Because my Asian grandmother, born in a sugar cane shack without running water or toilet, wasn't allowed to attend schools. Yet all three of her children went to college. I served with Latino's with similar stories. From our perspective, Whites are not the only racists.

And your point is what? By the way, in terms of the outcomes listed above, Asians track closely with whites. Latinos do not. What does that tell you about whether or not racism is the issue. Same sociology economics and different outcomes.

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There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

The comments they received on the draft policy revision were 2-to-1 in favor of the changes.

I have not seen those numbers so I will have to take your word for it. That doesn't make them not nuts though.

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There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

The comments they received on the draft policy revision were 2-to-1 in favor of the changes.

I have not seen those numbers so I will have to take your word for it. That doesn't make them not nuts though.

There were many documents posted on BoardDocs:

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=C28KHM51E4EA

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And your point is what? By the way, in terms of the outcomes listed above, Asians track closely with whites. Latinos do not. What does that tell you about whether or not racism is the issue. Same sociology economics and different outcomes.

Are YOU saying that Latino and Black kids cannot improve their academics unless they're in White schools?

It's people like you, perpetuating racial stereotypes, that are a big part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a new consortium would be a good idea. Maybe one that puts WJ, Woodward, and BCC together.[/quote

Or even better ditch current ones and make new ones to maximize diversity!

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And your point is what? By the way, in terms of the outcomes listed above, Asians track closely with whites. Latinos do not. What does that tell you about whether or not racism is the issue. Same sociology economics and different outcomes.

Are YOU saying that Latino and Black kids cannot improve their academics unless they're in White schools?

It's people like you, perpetuating racial stereotypes, that are a big part of the problem.

DP. Are YOU deliberately putting words in other people's mouths? Why yes, you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a new consortium would be a good idea. Maybe one that puts WJ, Woodward, and BCC together.[/quote

Or even better ditch current ones and make new ones to maximize diversity!

This wouldn't create real diversity by putting a bunch of rich schools together.

The current ones are about specific programs not diversity as all are pretty diverse.

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There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

The comments they received on the draft policy revision were 2-to-1 in favor of the changes.

I have not seen those numbers so I will have to take your word for it. That doesn't make them not nuts though.

There were many documents posted on BoardDocs:

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=C28KHM51E4EA

Thank you. After reviewing these documents, it is clear that most adults who responded are against these policy changes while every single student was in favor of it and wrote extremely similar things, almost as if they were directed to do so by a school official or teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering about when Woodward HS opens 2026, and MCPS redraws boundaries for Woodward, WJ and I am assuming Einstein, are they also going to redraw the boundaries for North Bethesda MS, Tilden MS and Silver Creek MS?

For example, DS will be in MS in 2026 - what is the likelyhood he will stay with his cohort through 8th grade or will they all be split up?

Will DS be in 6th? Because Unfortunately, the Woodward/Northwood project might be delayed one year by the County Council due to budget shortfalls.

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My child will be in HS in 2026, and a junior at WJ. If they redraw boundaries, will they, at least, grandfather kids who're already there?

Juniors and Seniors stay in their old school.

Or at least that is what happened with the Seneca Valley rezoning. The grandfathering decision is part of the superintendent's recommendation, and the Woodward recommendation will be written by a yet-to-be-named superintendent.

As far as I know, it's happened in all recent (~20 years or so) boundary studies. If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide it.

Before Seneca Valley, when was the last boundary study to populate a new high school building?

My point wasn't to say that grandfathering of juniors and seniors is unlikely, just to point out that there will be different and unknown people making the decisions in 2025.

There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

Do tell, how is anti-racism racism? I’d love your specific answer, especially give that race is a primary variable in student performance even when controlled for SES. Poverty is not a proxy for race. Black men raised in wealthy families are less likely than their white wealthy male peers to graduate from college. Black children of college graduates are less like than their white peers to graduate from college. Tests are also disproportionately disadvantageous to black students, particularly black girls. Race does matter. And we see this not just in educational outcomes but in areas like medicine, too. Why does that bother you? Until we fix root issues of racism and bias, we’ll never shake inequality and racism and hold all students back - and our society and economy back. Though, obviously, some people like the status quo ....

It's culture. Some cultures value education and some cultures see getting an education as "acting white" or in poor white neighborhoods as "acting smart." Until this attitude changes on a mass scale, the cultures that view education this way are doomed.

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There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

The comments they received on the draft policy revision were 2-to-1 in favor of the changes.

I have not seen those numbers so I will have to take your word for it. That doesn't make them not nuts though.

There were many documents posted on BoardDocs:

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=C28KHM51E4EA

Thank you. After reviewing these documents, it is clear that most adults who responded are against these policy changes while every single student was in favor of it and wrote extremely similar things, almost as if they were directed to do so by a school official or teacher.

I think it's time to replace your tin foil hat.

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There's also a different boundary policy. There's also about to be a different Non-discrimination policy which will enable MCPS to do whatever it wants under the guise of anti-racism. As soon as that policy is passed, the party is over.

Which party would that be? The discrimination party?

The party of reason and sanity. The changes they're making to ACA are absolutely nuts. MCPS is about to encode anti-racism (which is racism) into everything everything it does. They are redefining racism to mean a disparity of outcomes by race which is terrible because it ignores everything but race.

The comments they received on the draft policy revision were 2-to-1 in favor of the changes.

I have not seen those numbers so I will have to take your word for it. That doesn't make them not nuts though.

There were many documents posted on BoardDocs:

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=C28KHM51E4EA

Thank you. After reviewing these documents, it is clear that most adults who responded are against these policy changes while every single student was in favor of it and wrote extremely similar things, almost as if they were directed to do so by a school official or teacher.

I think it's time to replace your tin foil hat.

What do you mean?

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Do tell, how is anti-racism racism? I’d love your specific answer, especially give that race is a primary variable in student performance even when controlled for SES. Poverty is not a proxy for race. Black men raised in wealthy families are less likely than their white wealthy male peers to graduate from college. Black children of college graduates are less like than their white peers to graduate from college. Tests are also disproportionately disadvantageous to black students, particularly black girls. Race does matter. And we see this not just in educational outcomes but in areas like medicine, too. Why does that bother you? Until we fix root issues of racism and bias, we’ll never shake inequality and racism and hold all students back - and our society and economy back. Though, obviously, some people like the status quo ....

NP. Because my Asian grandmother, born in a sugar cane shack without running water or toilet, wasn't allowed to attend schools. Yet all three of her children went to college. I served with Latino's with similar stories. From our perspective, Whites are not the only racists.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

Asian activists are starting to speak up about how the myth of the model minority hurts working class Asians and Asian American children with special needs. Some are even recognizing that it is used by racists to prevent solidarity between AS, AA, and other people of color.

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Anonymous wrote:It's culture. Some cultures value education and some cultures see getting an education as "acting white" or in poor white neighborhoods as "acting smart." Until this attitude changes on a mass scale, the cultures that view education this way are doomed.

That's a might broad "culture" brush you're painting with.

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Do tell, how is anti-racism racism? I’d love your specific answer, especially give that race is a primary variable in student performance even when controlled for SES. Poverty is not a proxy for race. Black men raised in wealthy families are less likely than their white wealthy male peers to graduate from college. Black children of college graduates are less like than their white peers to graduate from college. Tests are also disproportionately disadvantageous to black students, particularly black girls. Race does matter. And we see this not just in educational outcomes but in areas like medicine, too. Why does that bother you? Until we fix root issues of racism and bias, we’ll never shake inequality and racism and hold all students back - and our society and economy back. Though, obviously, some people like the status quo ....

NP. Because my Asian grandmother, born in a sugar cane shack without running water or toilet, wasn't allowed to attend schools. Yet all three of her children went to college. I served with Latino's with similar stories. From our perspective, Whites are not the only racists.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

Asian activists are starting to speak up about how the myth of the model minority hurts working class Asians and Asian American children with special needs. Some are even recognizing that it is used by racists to prevent solidarity between AS, AA, and other people of color.

Just like the white privilege myth hurts working class whites.

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And your point is what? By the way, in terms of the outcomes listed above, Asians track closely with whites. Latinos do not. What does that tell you about whether or not racism is the issue. Same sociology economics and different outcomes.

Are YOU saying that Latino and Black kids cannot improve their academics unless they're in White schools?

It's people like you, perpetuating racial stereotypes, that are a big part of the problem.

There are no white schools at least there shouldn't be. We live in a diverse county. It's time to end segregation.