Do parents get CogAt scores?

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of scores end up getting referred for gifted services? The school's gifted teacher told me that the scores are just one of the factors considered (along with teacher referrals, parent referrals, a portfolio of the student's work - I assume the teacher has collected this as I haven't been asked for it). I'm just curious if its like everything over a certain percentage gets gifted services, or what. The school's gifted teacher didn't want to commit to anything like that (understandably). We're in lower ES so I'm not really worried, just more trying to figure out what this process is and how it works.

I’m sure this differs by school and maybe year. When my kids’ gifted resources teacher was pushed to answer this question at a PTA meeting a few years ago she said that roughly 120+ would probably put a kid in the pool to be considered. The answer gave me the impression that a score around 120 wouldn’t get a kid services if other work and teacher input wasn’t also in their favor. There was no score given as an automatic in. They’re not dummies- they know that many parents prep their kids for the test and a high score with absolutely nothing else indicating a need for gifted services probably isn’t going to fly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This CogAt test is worthless everyone says our student is gifted...yet bombed the CogAt. Seriously APS?

If your student has other achievements, like winning essay competitions and the like, or represented the school in something, that will definitely count - not just CogAT scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This CogAt test is worthless everyone says our student is gifted...yet bombed the CogAt. Seriously APS?

It's a standardized test, not something APS created. They still provide services even for some kids who haven't been formally identified. My third grader has been getting differentiated material since K and seeing the gifted resource teacher since 2nd grade. He just took the test this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of scores end up getting referred for gifted services? The school's gifted teacher told me that the scores are just one of the factors considered (along with teacher referrals, parent referrals, a portfolio of the student's work - I assume the teacher has collected this as I haven't been asked for it). I'm just curious if its like everything over a certain percentage gets gifted services, or what. The school's gifted teacher didn't want to commit to anything like that (understandably). We're in lower ES so I'm not really worried, just more trying to figure out what this process is and how it works.

I’m sure this differs by school and maybe year. When my kids’ gifted resources teacher was pushed to answer this question at a PTA meeting a few years ago she said that roughly 120+ would probably put a kid in the pool to be considered. The answer gave me the impression that a score around 120 wouldn’t get a kid services if other work and teacher input wasn’t also in their favor. There was no score given as an automatic in. They’re not dummies- they know that many parents prep their kids for the test and a high score with absolutely nothing else indicating a need for gifted services probably isn’t going to fly.

I hear you! My mom encouraged me to have my child take practice tests (I didn't do it).

[Anonymous]

Still no results from our NA elementary school....do you think they will send them before the end of the school year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still no results from our NA elementary school....do you think they will send them before the end of the school year?

I would contact the school office to find out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still no results from our NA elementary school....do you think they will send them before the end of the school year?

We got them around the last week of school in a previous year.

[Anonymous]

We got our kids scores in the mail today

[Anonymous]

I got my child's results in the mail too. They did terribly... lol. But really, I think they should have skipped this year.

[Anonymous]

My child did fine, though worst in the one of the three subjects that would be expected to be their best subject.

Got into one subject gifted for K/1st. I am not sure what to make of this. Did not get into "gifted" in science or social studies, not sure what that would mean - I am thinking to ignore those two subjects for now

But I would have liked my kid to be identified for both math and language arts. ...

Is there any further breakdown of APS gifted beyond the budget document? I am not sure how to feel about this yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This CogAt test is worthless everyone says our student is gifted...yet bombed the CogAt. Seriously APS?

Its a test, so theoretically you can do badly, but the variation shouldn't be extreme. I've had to accept my kids are not gifted personally. Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child did fine, though worst in the one of the three subjects that would be expected to be their best subject.

Got into one subject gifted for K/1st. I am not sure what to make of this. Did not get into "gifted" in science or social studies, not sure what that would mean - I am thinking to ignore those two subjects for now

But I would have liked my kid to be identified for both math and language arts. ...

Is there any further breakdown of APS gifted beyond the budget document? I am not sure how to feel about this yet

Same. DC was identified in K, outside of testing, by teacher, for gifted ID in math, but did very poorly on the quantitative section. High 90s on other sections. It’s odd, especially since this remains my child’s strongest and favorite subject years later. But they won’t remove an ID based on the tests, just FYI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This CogAt test is worthless everyone says our student is gifted...yet bombed the CogAt. Seriously APS?

Its a test, so theoretically you can do badly, but the variation shouldn't be extreme. I've had to accept my kids are not gifted personally. Nothing wrong with that.

The test wasn't glitch-free, for sure. Scores showed that DD didn't answer one question. She said she had submitted her answer, but the teacher's device showed that it was still unanswered. They just left it at that. It was weird.

[Anonymous]

I think the CogAt identifies a specific way of thinking and program solving so a kid could still do amazingly well at school and be really strong academically but might not be identified via CogAT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This CogAt test is worthless everyone says our student is gifted...yet bombed the CogAt. Seriously APS?

Its a test, so theoretically you can do badly, but the variation shouldn't be extreme. I've had to accept my kids are not gifted personally. Nothing wrong with that.

The test wasn't glitch-free, for sure. Scores showed that DD didn't answer one question. She said she had submitted her answer, but the teacher's device showed that it was still unanswered. They just left it at that. It was weird.

How old is your child? I'm not sure I would trust my third grader to tell me if they didn't answer a question.
Again, nothing wrong with your child if they aren't identified. You can get the same test done by a private vendor if you think there was an issue -- APS will accept the results if done through a legitimate third party and use those to give you services.
That all having been said, gifted services are not really that great. My daughter was initially identified in second grade when she took the NNAT. I haven't seen anything significantly different between her experience and the one of her bright but not gifted older sister. If your child is kind of borderline for advanced math when you get to middle school, it might make a difference, but most kids don't do advanced math in middle school anyways until 7th/8th grade (where the recommendation is based more on your childs performance than anything else). Maybe things are significantly different in high school, but my kids in elementary and middle have not had enough differentiation where I would worry about them being left out if they are not receiving services.