Stop hating on gifted kids.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We serve the mentally handicapped because it’s the humane thing to do? You are such an arrogant, clueless person OP. Maybe you should be worried about your kids social intelligence if they have you as an example.


Stop worrying about my social skills, and start embracing the truth.
Anonymous
OP can you give specific examples where people are hating on the AAP kids vs the program or parents with an inflated ego?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


So AAP admissions is IQ test alone?
Anonymous
The AAP program allows for kids to move into it each year along with a LLIII program. I truly don't know any parents who wanted their kids in AAP and their kids didn't even make LLIII. Maybe there are some schools, but not our local elementary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


So AAP admissions is IQ test alone?


Who is talking about AAP admission? Why are you so obsessed with AAP?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP can you give specific examples where people are hating on the AAP kids vs the program or parents with an inflated ego?


I am not talking about AAP kids, but gifted ones.

A very plain example is when people are willing to sacrifice the education of the gifted with the excuse that high achievers are learning along.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gifted is top 2% IQ of a population. Not the top 20% most prepped, enriched, or just plain rich of a population.


And public education’s purpose is to educate the broad masses. You are entitled to a free education. Being more “culturally” obsessed with education does not entitle you to a better free education.


What does the state require for gifted education?

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/gifted_ed/gifted_regulations.pdf

Let's see, they're required to identify and provide differentiated education for gifted students. What that differation may be is up to local jurisdictions.

If kids are getting gifted scores then they are entitled to a "better" free education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gifted is top 2% IQ of a population. Not the top 20% most prepped, enriched, or just plain rich of a population.


And public education’s purpose is to educate the broad masses. You are entitled to a free education. Being more “culturally” obsessed with education does not entitle you to a better free education.


What does the state require for gifted education?

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/gifted_ed/gifted_regulations.pdf

Let's see, they're required to identify and provide differentiated education for gifted students. What that differation may be is up to local jurisdictions.

If kids are getting gifted scores then they are entitled to a "better" free education.


Different. Not better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


So AAP admissions is IQ test alone?


Who is talking about AAP admission? Why are you so obsessed with AAP?!


Do you not... see what forum this is posted in
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


So AAP admissions is IQ test alone?


Who is talking about AAP admission? Why are you so obsessed with AAP?!


Do you not... see what forum this is posted in


The forum is the correct one. The thread refers to one type of advanced learner, the gifted one. How would you know!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
So your kid couldn’t be served, but you know full well that other kids are adequately served! Most private schools are there for segregation, so naturally they won’t serve the gifted well. Most families in these area are two working parent families, and homeschool doesn’t work for them.


Most of the kids in AAP are adequately served. There simply isn't a good and feasible option for the kids who are gifted enough that AAP cannot serve their needs. There are about 13,000 kids per grade level in FCPS. The 100-ish kids per grade level who are outliers are scattered across a reasonably large geographic area. Very few parents want to put their 8 year olds on 1+ hour bus rides each way for elementary gifted services. This is also assuming that you can even identify the outliers in any manner immune to prepping.

Even if FCPS were to return to the GT program that served 5% rather than 20% of the kids, the outliers still wouldn't be served. AAP would switch from being 1 grade level ahead to 2 grade levels ahead, which is inadequate for the kids well beyond that.
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