Engineering - Umich (OOS) - Uva (InState)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how so man UVA partisans seem to portray Michigan as some huge party school. It is a large school to be sure, but has the resources to support its students. It’s also one of the more intellectually stimulating environments in the entire country. Certainly on par or better overall than UVA in almost every imaginable way.

Both UVA and Michigan are party schools. That's the nature of being large public universities. As for intellectually stimulating environments, anyone that thinks a school known for Southern frat culture is more intellectually stimulating than a school that excels in every academic discipline across the board...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA doesn’t have a co-op program?

Michigan research brings in lots of money and provides a lot of resources (specialized labs, etc). Great for even undergrads to get involved in cool new stuff.

Nope

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uva-co-op-program/1989273

WRONG. You are citing some unknowns talking in 2018. Google UVA engineering co-op and read. Aerospace industry and mechanical engineering have the largest co-ops of the 222 majors on campus. My DS was in electrical engineering and is now at Princeton for grad work ( and before you sat “sure he is” go read up on electrical engineering grad program at Princeton).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA doesn’t have a co-op program?

Michigan research brings in lots of money and provides a lot of resources (specialized labs, etc). Great for even undergrads to get involved in cool new stuff.

Nope

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uva-co-op-program/1989273

WRONG. You are citing some unknowns talking in 2018. Google UVA engineering co-op and read. Aerospace industry and mechanical engineering have the largest co-ops of the 222 majors on campus. My DS was in electrical engineering and is now at Princeton for grad work ( and before you sat “sure he is” go read up on electrical engineering grad program at Princeton).

The only thing I find is an ancient webpage with broken links.

Sounds like internships are the thing now.

Did your son participate in the co-op program? He graduated after 5 years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how so man UVA partisans seem to portray Michigan as some huge party school. It is a large school to be sure, but has the resources to support its students. It’s also one of the more intellectually stimulating environments in the entire country. Certainly on par or better overall than UVA in almost every imaginable way.

Both UVA and Michigan are party schools. That's the nature of being large public universities. As for intellectually stimulating environments, anyone that thinks a school known for Southern frat culture is more intellectually stimulating than a school that excels in every academic discipline across the board...

No. it is only for those that want it to be - mainly the Greeks which are off campus on Rugby Road. If you gave the grades and stats to get in, most likely you aren't going to be drinking or partying hard. My DS didn't. It's the Greeks and some male athletes that do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just have to laugh at these nonsense. I just hired a recently James Madison CS graduate and another recently U. of Michigan CS graduate and they both got paid the same salary, 94k/yr, for the same position.

I just hired a guy for more than that with no degree.

These posters have it right.....

The rest of you are, well, just wankers.

[Anonymous]

I think UMich is a great school, but the increase in cost wouldn't be worth it for me. I am not independently wealthy, have younger children, and UVA is a great option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just have to laugh at these nonsense. I just hired a recently James Madison CS graduate and another recently U. of Michigan CS graduate and they both got paid the same salary, 94k/yr, for the same position.

I just hired a guy for more than that with no degree.

These posters have it right.....

The rest of you are, well, just wankers.

DD graduated last year uva CS and got many offers averaging $110k, DS graduating this year uva engineering CS and already accepted an offer $110k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA doesn’t have a co-op program?

Michigan research brings in lots of money and provides a lot of resources (specialized labs, etc). Great for even undergrads to get involved in cool new stuff.

Nope

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uva-co-op-program/1989273

WRONG. You are citing some unknowns talking in 2018. Google UVA engineering co-op and read. Aerospace industry and mechanical engineering have the largest co-ops of the 222 majors on campus. My DS was in electrical engineering and is now at Princeton for grad work ( and before you sat “sure he is” go read up on electrical engineering grad program at Princeton).

The only thing I find is an ancient webpage with broken links.

Sounds like internships are the thing now.

Did your son participate in the co-op program? He graduated after 5 years?

Here. http://www.mae.virginia.edu/academics/undergrad/co-op.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree that Michigan is soooooo much better than UVA. UVA is a top school. Why would you waste money on a school like Michigan when you have UVA? UVA has a stellar reputation. There is no choice here. Save your money.

Michigan is top ten (#6)
UVA is top forty (#37)

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Ranked according to whom???? Those rankings are bullshit. If you are taken in by those, be my guest and waste your money on Michigan. Your job prospects will not be any different by going to UVA Look at the outcomes. And as far as coops go, any student can get a coop. There doesn’t need to be an official coop program. There are a bunch of people on here who know absolutely nothing about choosing an engineering school. Getting caught up in rankings is a sure sign of this. Rankings don’t mean much when outcomes are very similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree that Michigan is soooooo much better than UVA. UVA is a top school. Why would you waste money on a school like Michigan when you have UVA? UVA has a stellar reputation. There is no choice here. Save your money.

Michigan is top ten (#6)
UVA is top forty (#37)

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Ranked according to whom???? Those rankings are bullshit. If you are taken in by those, be my guest and waste your money on Michigan. Your job prospects will not be any different by going to UVA Look at the outcomes. And as far as coops go, any student can get a coop. There doesn’t need to be an official coop program. There are a bunch of people on here who know absolutely nothing about choosing an engineering school. Getting caught up in rankings is a sure sign of this. Rankings don’t mean much when outcomes are very similar.

LOL. UVA boosters never cease to amaze me. This is the same USNews magazine that ranks UVA a top public school and you, UVa boosters, like to brag about.
So USNews is the best when it ranks UVA high but it is bullshit when it doesn't?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree that Michigan is soooooo much better than UVA. UVA is a top school. Why would you waste money on a school like Michigan when you have UVA? UVA has a stellar reputation. There is no choice here. Save your money.

Michigan is top ten (#6)
UVA is top forty (#37)

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Ranked according to whom???? Those rankings are bullshit. If you are taken in by those, be my guest and waste your money on Michigan. Your job prospects will not be any different by going to UVA Look at the outcomes. And as far as coops go, any student can get a coop. There doesn’t need to be an official coop program. There are a bunch of people on here who know absolutely nothing about choosing an engineering school. Getting caught up in rankings is a sure sign of this. Rankings don’t mean much when outcomes are very similar.

LOL. UVA boosters never cease to amaze me. This is the same USNews magazine that ranks UVA a top public school and you, UVa boosters, like to brag about.
So USNews is the best when it ranks UVA high but it is bullshit when it doesn't?

That’s about the size of it.

[Anonymous]

UVA is adequate for an engineering education. Michigan is stellar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA doesn’t have a co-op program?

Michigan research brings in lots of money and provides a lot of resources (specialized labs, etc). Great for even undergrads to get involved in cool new stuff.

Nope

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/uva-co-op-program/1989273

WRONG. You are citing some unknowns talking in 2018. Google UVA engineering co-op and read. Aerospace industry and mechanical engineering have the largest co-ops of the 222 majors on campus. My DS was in electrical engineering and is now at Princeton for grad work ( and before you sat “sure he is” go read up on electrical engineering grad program at Princeton).

The only thing I find is an ancient webpage with broken links.

Sounds like internships are the thing now.

Did your son participate in the co-op program? He graduated after 5 years?

Here. http://www.mae.virginia.edu/academics/undergrad/co-op.htm

Yes, that’s the ancient webpage I found. Try to clock on a link.

There is no co-op info on the current engineering/MAE website. Just internships.

Did your son actually do co-op or did you just Google and find that old page?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree that Michigan is soooooo much better than UVA. UVA is a top school. Why would you waste money on a school like Michigan when you have UVA? UVA has a stellar reputation. There is no choice here. Save your money.

Michigan is top ten (#6)
UVA is top forty (#37)

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Ranked according to whom???? Those rankings are bullshit. If you are taken in by those, be my guest and waste your money on Michigan. Your job prospects will not be any different by going to UVA Look at the outcomes. And as far as coops go, any student can get a coop. There doesn’t need to be an official coop program. There are a bunch of people on here who know absolutely nothing about choosing an engineering school. Getting caught up in rankings is a sure sign of this. Rankings don’t mean much when outcomes are very similar.

Sure. But the good engineering schools with co-op programs have strong on-campus recruiting with top firms. Some also offer special summer co-op classes so students may be able to graduate in four years.