anyone else sick of “SEL”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

+1

I think making us do any time of SEL as adults is really inappropriate. I don’t want to spend meetings or PD time learning how I can manage stress and discussing my personal life and challenges with colleagues. I find it wholly unprofessional and something I should be expected to do.

What's more unprofessional are the endless prayer circles at my school. Not everyone believes in prayer or Jesus, keep that to yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

you literally have no clue what you’re talking about. and if you’re mad about “white people” monetizing cultural practices, you ought to be mad at “SEL” grift as well.

https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/is-mindfulness-safe-for-trauma-survivors/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

I guess the rosary needs to be cancelled - cultural appropriation!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

you literally have no clue what you’re talking about. and if you’re mad about “white people” monetizing cultural practices, you ought to be mad at “SEL” grift as well.

https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/is-mindfulness-safe-for-trauma-survivors/

Oh thanks for linking a useless website article. No need to put white people in quotations, it is white people who are the primary culture vultures. I suggest you do actual research on what mediation is and how anyone can do and benefit from it. The one thing you said that is correct is there is no one size fits all. However as a teacher at a title 1 school with children who have been raped, beaten, experienced homelessness, etc. I can tell you this has helped them, it's not the sole reason by any means. Professional counseling is also a huge help.

Ps. social emotional learning is not the same things a mediation, which again you don't need a master's degree to perform. But I doubt you will admit your lack of knowledge about cultural appropriation and meditation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so tired of the lip service paid to “SEL” by DCPS and our elementary. It’s a buzzword and huge timewaster. It makes teachers and admins believe there is some kind of magic didactic lesson they can give to achieve “empathy” or whatever; but then they completely fail to invest in actual evidence-based practices to help kids with behavioral issues, bullying, or social skills problems. And of course, the utter irony of touting “SEL” while refusing to actually let kids come to school ...

SEL was the response to parents like you who probably threw in "mental health" on their banshee list of complaints.

huh? I know this because my child actually has mental health/social issues. SEL as delivered at out school neither helps him nor stops the other kids from being mean to him nor does it actually get teachers/admins to engage in evidence based practices to support him. But they sure do love to say “but we do SEL!!” whenever I bring an issue to him. And, I can guarantee that parents like you are precisely the ones who throw empathy etc out the window the second you think your precious child is in any way inconvenienced.

My kid had similar issues and I completely agree. All those lessons do is “heighten the contradictions” so to speak.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

Sorry sweetie, meditation did not originate from whites. Doesn't mean you can't practice it by any means but Asians and Africans practiced it first and Europeans adopted it way later. You really think during the Victorian era your people were doing mediation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

you literally have no clue what you’re talking about. and if you’re mad about “white people” monetizing cultural practices, you ought to be mad at “SEL” grift as well.

https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/is-mindfulness-safe-for-trauma-survivors/

Oh thanks for linking a useless website article. No need to put white people in quotations, it is white people who are the primary culture vultures. I suggest you do actual research on what mediation is and how anyone can do and benefit from it. The one thing you said that is correct is there is no one size fits all. However as a teacher at a title 1 school with children who have been raped, beaten, experienced homelessness, etc. I can tell you this has helped them, it's not the sole reason by any means. Professional counseling is also a huge help.

Ps. social emotional learning is not the same things a mediation, which again you don't need a master's degree to perform. But I doubt you will admit your lack of knowledge about cultural appropriation and meditation.

your refusing to engage with a well-known phenomenon among actual meditation
teachers and psychologists just makes me even more convinced that “SEL” is poorly thought out nonsense. I won’t even get into your absurd claim that mindfulness and meditation are exclusively non-white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

Sorry sweetie, meditation did not originate from whites. Doesn't mean you can't practice it by any means but Asians and Africans practiced it first and Europeans adopted it way later. You really think during the Victorian era your people were doing mediation

I mean yes - it’s called contemplation and prayer, like the rosary, and all major religons do it in one form or another. do you actually not know that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

I guess the rosary needs to be cancelled - cultural appropriation!

What are you babbling about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

Leave it to someone on DCUM to claim an ancient and global activity as exclusively “their” tradition.

Sorry sweetie, meditation did not originate from whites. Doesn't mean you can't practice it by any means but Asians and Africans practiced it first and Europeans adopted it way later. You really think during the Victorian era your people were doing mediation

I mean yes - it’s called contemplation and prayer, like the rosary, and all major religons do it in one form or another. do you actually not know that?

I'm sorry prayer is not meditation. Just another way to 'connect' to god. Often times I've noticed religious people trying to connect to a god instead of connecting to themselves first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities.

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all.

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people.

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.

you literally have no clue what you’re talking about. and if you’re mad about “white people” monetizing cultural practices, you ought to be mad at “SEL” grift as well.

https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/is-mindfulness-safe-for-trauma-survivors/

Oh thanks for linking a useless website article. No need to put white people in quotations, it is white people who are the primary culture vultures. I suggest you do actual research on what mediation is and how anyone can do and benefit from it. The one thing you said that is correct is there is no one size fits all. However as a teacher at a title 1 school with children who have been raped, beaten, experienced homelessness, etc. I can tell you this has helped them, it's not the sole reason by any means. Professional counseling is also a huge help.

Ps. social emotional learning is not the same things a mediation, which again you don't need a master's degree to perform. But I doubt you will admit your lack of knowledge about cultural appropriation and meditation.

your refusing to engage with a well-known phenomenon among actual meditation
teachers and psychologists just makes me even more convinced that “SEL” is poorly thought out nonsense. I won’t even get into your absurd claim that mindfulness and meditation are exclusively non-white.

Ah yes, only white meditation is ACTUAL meditation. How silly and very ignorant of me. Maybe it's silly at your little NW school but it has stopped some children at my school from committing suicide. I will agree, I've worked at schools where SEL is just a checklist but that doesn't mean it's not valuable when done with purpose.
Traditional meditation is yes a non-white practice. I mean look what you did to yoga, it's become a white woman's 'exercise.'