Presidential Scholar nominee list

[Anonymous]

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This is a BS award. 1580-1600 SAT range, 4.0 GPA, numerous academic and EC awards are normal in my kid's school. No one is represented here.

Students who meet the score criteria, regardless of school, are candidates. (If I remember right, the score has to be from one sitting of the ACT or SAT; it is not superscored.) If students from your kids' school had high enough test scores, you should find them on this list: https://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/2021/candidates.pdf

Students who are nominated may choose not to proceed in the competition. (There is an application and easy process for candidates who want to be considered as potential semifinalists and finalists.) The final results come out late enough that they aren't relevant for college admissions. (Plus a free trip to DC may not be compelling to local students!) That said, it is a lifelong honor for those who win.

[Anonymous]

It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

[Anonymous]

Generally speaking (with the exception perhaps of being a National Merit finalist), I don't see reporting nominations and finalist selections. I would add things they actually won (not were close to winning).

congratulations though, your child has done very well!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the timing is such that it very rarely matters for admissions purposes (other than of course the underlying high scores).

This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For DC Presidential Scholars, anyone know what the SAT cutoff was for the top 20 dc girls and boys? I know there are some candidates who aren't top 20/automatic candidates as well as the top 20 automatic qualifiers. I doubt there were 40 boys and girls with 1600s, but I assume mid to upper 1500s?

Recently ~1540 for DC. Near 1600 (if not 1600) for MD/VA. Clearly this has been a weird year, so maybe different.

Usually, more DC residents get PS than NMSF. With a normal NMSF cutoff of 1490, that would normally translate to 1550/1560 SAT for NMSF. So, 1540 seems reasonable for PS.

Where can you find the cutoff for each year?

Dr. Google. The college board and then other random sites repeat it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For DC Presidential Scholars, anyone know what the SAT cutoff was for the top 20 dc girls and boys? I know there are some candidates who aren't top 20/automatic candidates as well as the top 20 automatic qualifiers. I doubt there were 40 boys and girls with 1600s, but I assume mid to upper 1500s?

Recently ~1540 for DC. Near 1600 (if not 1600) for MD/VA. Clearly this has been a weird year, so maybe different.

Usually, more DC residents get PS than NMSF. With a normal NMSF cutoff of 1490, that would normally translate to 1550/1560 SAT for NMSF. So, 1540 seems reasonable for PS.

Where can you find the cutoff for each year?

Dr. Google. The college board and then other random sites repeat it.

The state-by-state cutoffs for PS candidacy are harder to find, but it is my understanding that the folks that run it will tell you your state if you call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

No, not at all. But saying "there is no difference between a 1500 and 1600" as someone did on a different thread is not true. They are almost all 800. Not 780, not 790. In this case, perfect SAT scores are a big deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

No, not at all. But saying "there is no difference between a 1500 and 1600" as someone did on a different thread is not true. They are almost all 800. Not 780, not 790. In this case, perfect SAT scores are a big deal.

It is true to a large extent. Many of those who got in are math/CS Olympiad winners. So a SAT score near 1600 is a piece of cake to them. The same group of winners who scored 1500 in SAT would have gotten in as well (although few scored that low among those).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

So they got in not because they have perfect scores in standardized tests, but because they're Olympiad winners.

No, not at all. But saying "there is no difference between a 1500 and 1600" as someone did on a different thread is not true. They are almost all 800. Not 780, not 790. In this case, perfect SAT scores are a big deal.

It is true to a large extent. Many of those who got in are math/CS Olympiad winners. So a SAT score near 1600 is a piece of cake to them. The same group of winners who scored 1500 in SAT would have gotten in as well (although few scored that low among those).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

No, not at all. But saying "there is no difference between a 1500 and 1600" as someone did on a different thread is not true. They are almost all 800. Not 780, not 790. In this case, perfect SAT scores are a big deal.

It is true to a large extent. Many of those who got in are math/CS Olympiad winners. So a SAT score near 1600 is a piece of cake to them. The same group of winners who scored 1500 in SAT would have gotten in as well (although few scored that low among those).

So they got in not because they have perfect scores in standardized tests, but because they're Olympiad winners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth close to nothing if you're consider applying to top colleges. SAT/ACT tests are made so easy these days, perfect scores are a dime a dozen.

Don't listen to ignorant assholes like this.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-many-people-get-a-34-35-36-on-the-act-score-breakdown

You're the ignorant asshole because you know sh*t about college admissions but (stupidly) believe perfect standardized scores are a big deal. It's worth close to sh*t to top colleges (don't tell me your top college is W&M); that's a fact.

CMU SCS has >75% of admitted students with 800 Math SAT scores (probably > 90% for males), so it does matter to some top colleges.

You think they got in on SAT alone?

No, not at all. But saying "there is no difference between a 1500 and 1600" as someone did on a different thread is not true. They are almost all 800. Not 780, not 790. In this case, perfect SAT scores are a big deal.

It is true to a large extent. Many of those who got in are math/CS Olympiad winners. So a SAT score near 1600 is a piece of cake to them. The same group of winners who scored 1500 in SAT would have gotten in as well (although few scored that low among those).

So they got in not because they have perfect scores in standardized tests, but because they're Olympiad winners.

But not if they're the Olympiad winners that got 790 on their SAT.