trump has the Pentagon planning something big right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Uggh. Every Republican president has gotten us into a war in the last 40 years. I was hoping Trump would finally break that streak. Is he trying to justify martial law to keep control during a new war? I am sure he and others have thought about it.


he flat out said it to his advisors


This. Exactly this. He literally SAID it.
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Anonymous wrote:DH (military) has been working longer hours recently to prep for possible shutdown and administration change. They are also getting more people back into the office. He would have told me if something was going down.


Really??? Even a classified mission???

NP.
A spouse would not tell about a classified mission, document, etc.
However, if there was an imminent attack, they would get their loved ones out of town.
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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in and live in Arlington. I drive by the Pentagon almost every day, and the last time I can remember seeing the parking lot as full as it is now during the winter holidays was back when I was in middle school - in December of 2001, when the Afghanistan war was getting started.

It looks like that again now.

Bookmark this post - we are about to start another war. Probably with Iran, with the Israelis helping. Or maybe even against China and Russia. Something is going to happen, and soon.


Agree. Something is most definitely up.

I was hoping it was plain old corruption - arms sales or a contract to Blackwater, but I fear it's more serious.
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There was an attack in Yemen (Aden Airport), probably by one of the factions not pleased with the new agreement. That could be it.
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That would make sense. If a war with Iran happens, the Persian gulf would be shut down for ships. The only way to get crude oil out of Saudi Arabia would be by air.

Gotta keep those gas prices low, right? Otherwise all the trumpets wouldn’t be able to afford to put gas in the ‘Hemi. And his base would abandon him.


He thinks he’s so smart. But he’s so painfully stupid.
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The military doesn't have to carry out an illegal or unprovoked order. Attacking Iran at this juncture would seem to fall into the illegal category.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.
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That would make sense. If a war with Iran happens, the Persian gulf would be shut down for ships. The only way to get crude oil out of Saudi Arabia would be by air.

Gotta keep those gas prices low, right? Otherwise all the trumpets wouldn’t be able to afford to put gas in the ‘Hemi. And his base would abandon him.


He thinks he’s so smart. But he’s so painfully stupid.


You are not this stupid?

Tanker aircraft exist only to refuel fighter jets and long-range bombers. They do not export oil from Saudi. Or anywhere else. Oil that we don't really need.

Remember? The US is a net oil exporting nation.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.


Damn... we’re about to have a coup.



No. We won’t. The military will support and defend the constitution. Every Military Officer I know despises Trump. Even the hard core Republicans. If there is a coup attempt, the National Guard will quickly squash it.


Frankly this. I am ready to believe anything about Trump and Republicans, but I am positive the military is counting the days Trump is gone even more anxiously than us. you may find some nutjobs like Flynn (who, BTW, had no problem betraying the country by getting secretly paid by Turkey while being the NSA) but there are bad apples everywhere. the idea that the US military would support a coup d'etat to reverse the result of presidential elections in the US is nuts. the fact that we are even discussing this shows how deep is the damage that Trump did to the country. plus the GOP knows Trump lost and while guys like Jordan are happy to entertain the loss deniers on Fox or Newsmax, hoping to benefit from the support Trump has among GOP voters, they are cowards and not stupid enough to be at the forefront of a military coup.
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That would make sense. If a war with Iran happens, the Persian gulf would be shut down for ships. The only way to get crude oil out of Saudi Arabia would be by air.

Gotta keep those gas prices low, right? Otherwise all the trumpets wouldn’t be able to afford to put gas in the ‘Hemi. And his base would abandon him.


He thinks he’s so smart. But he’s so painfully stupid.


You are not this stupid?

Tanker aircraft exist only to refuel fighter jets and long-range bombers. They do not export oil from Saudi. Or anywhere else. Oil that we don't really need.

Remember? The US is a net oil exporting nation.

NP. Agree... but we the US does import some crude. Mostly from Canada, but some from the gulf.
We export refined.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php#:~:text=1%20The%20top%20five%20sources%20of%20U.S.%20total,Arabia%206%25%205%20Russia%206%25%206%20Colombia%204%25
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That would make sense. If a war with Iran happens, the Persian gulf would be shut down for ships. The only way to get crude oil out of Saudi Arabia would be by air.

Gotta keep those gas prices low, right? Otherwise all the trumpets wouldn’t be able to afford to put gas in the ‘Hemi. And his base would abandon him.


He thinks he’s so smart. But he’s so painfully stupid.


You are not this stupid?

Tanker aircraft exist only to refuel fighter jets and long-range bombers. They do not export oil from Saudi. Or anywhere else. Oil that we don't really need.

Remember? The US is a net oil exporting nation.


Looks like you’re the stupid one here.

You can use a tanker just to transport fuel, too. You’d need several of them to equal what could be transported by ship, but they’re so much faster that a dozen of them could probably move the same amount of oil a ship could move, in the same amount of time.

It wouldn’t exactly be the first time a republican miss-used our military.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.


Damn... we’re about to have a coup.



No. We won’t. The military will support and defend the constitution. Every Military Officer I know despises Trump. Even the hard core Republicans. If there is a coup attempt, the National Guard will quickly squash it.


Frankly this. I am ready to believe anything about Trump and Republicans, but I am positive the military is counting the days Trump is gone even more anxiously than us. you may find some nutjobs like Flynn (who, BTW, had no problem betraying the country by getting secretly paid by Turkey while being the NSA) but there are bad apples everywhere. the idea that the US military would support a coup d'etat to reverse the result of presidential elections in the US is nuts. the fact that we are even discussing this shows how deep is the damage that Trump did to the country. plus the GOP knows Trump lost and while guys like Jordan are happy to entertain the loss deniers on Fox or Newsmax, hoping to benefit from the support Trump has among GOP voters, they are cowards and not stupid enough to be at the forefront of a military coup.

Agree. My husband and I are both retired military officers. We both cannot stand Trump. His treatment of McCain was absolutely horrible. His treatment of gold star families is inexcusable.
Yes, some in the military like him. But many don’t.
I also agree about the damage done. It’s going to be hard to recover from this huge distrust between left and right.
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Anonymous wrote:I was up near Great Falls park over the weekend, and when we were driving by the Navy buildings on the Clara Barton Parkway, my friend pointed out these green and tan steel boxes propped up on trailers. She said they were missile launchers. I thought she was just joking, but then she showed me pictures off the web, and OMG, she was right - they really ARE missile launchers!!!! I’ve never seen them there before. How can the military just put missiles someplace without even telling the public? And there’s no one even guarding them! What if terrorists steal one and try to set it off??? What is happening?!?!?!


I’m calling Senator Chris Van Hollen’s office right now.

The constant helicopter flights are bad enough, but now we’ve got nuclear weapons getting installed in Potomac now? Oh HELL no!


Jeff just said those have been there for a long time.


And you’re ok with that?

I don’t know/care how long they’ve been there. It’s not alright to have a missile base near where so many people live! I thought they put these things out in the middle of the country where no one lives - in the Dakotas or places like that. I’m assuming they did that back then because missiles were probably bigger and used underground control centers. So I guess it’s reasonable to assume that they’ve gotten smaller since the cold war but, seriously, why base them in essentially the middle of a city? That’s insane!


They come and go all the time. They are anti-aircraft missile batteries and it is part of the standard operating procedure to deploy them and remove them from military and critical government installations all over. This was a result of 9/11


Are you a missile expert? You said these are anti-aircraft missiles? Like for shooting down airplanes?

They aren’t missiles that carry nuclear bombs?

You know this for sure? How?


I am a rocket expert. Those are not nuclear .


Your lack of specifics suggests otherwise.

What exactly ARE they then, rocket expert? Can you tell us the exact model so we can go to Wikipedia and read about it?



Crickets from the “rocket expert”
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That would make sense. If a war with Iran happens, the Persian gulf would be shut down for ships. The only way to get crude oil out of Saudi Arabia would be by air.

Gotta keep those gas prices low, right? Otherwise all the trumpets wouldn’t be able to afford to put gas in the ‘Hemi. And his base would abandon him.


He thinks he’s so smart. But he’s so painfully stupid.


You are not this stupid?

Tanker aircraft exist only to refuel fighter jets and long-range bombers. They do not export oil from Saudi. Or anywhere else. Oil that we don't really need.

Remember? The US is a net oil exporting nation.


Looks like you’re the stupid one here.

You can use a tanker just to transport fuel, too. You’d need several of them to equal what could be transported by ship, but they’re so much faster that a dozen of them could probably move the same amount of oil a ship could move, in the same amount of time.

It wouldn’t exactly be the first time a republican miss-used our military.


A supertanker holds 2 million barrels. It would require HUNDREDS of heavy duty tanker. That's 84 million gallons.

A KC-135 tanker holds 30,000 gallons of fuel (which is less dense than oil.)
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