What’s the controversy with 1) Maggie Haberman; 2) Nate Silver and 3) Dionne Warwick?

[Anonymous]

Because she couldn't help herself, Nepotism Haberman was live tweeting the private GOP call earlier, so they abruptly ended it. It's all about her.

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Anonymous wrote:PPl pissed at Nate Silver for acting like a contagious disease epidemiologist and he's not...and did a lot of science wrong.

Except the contagious disease epidemiologists in question who wrote the report were not acting like all epidemiologists would per se when they recommended not putting elderly folks first in the next phase, which would increase the number of predicted deaths. Looks like the CDC is now recommending they are put first, so those experts seem more in line with the Nate Silver perspective, which seems the more ethical perspective. Questioning experts is called critical thinking. Experts are all operating under various influences and can come to different conclusions. Good for Nate Silver. We need more critical thinking, not less.

I don’t understand where this line of thinking is coming from? Every recommendation I saw, prior to the CDC weighing in, was frontline health workers first, then the elderly.

Frontline health workers are getting first, as we speak, along with residents in long term care. They were going to prioritize essential workers over people over 74, for the next phase. Now they are going to prioritize people over 74, and a smaller group of the frontline essential workers most at risk of exposure, for the next phase (Phase 1b)

Yes, I am both over 74 and an essential worker. My hospital said I would receive the vaccine because of my age, not my job.

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Anonymous wrote:PPl pissed at Nate Silver for acting like a contagious disease epidemiologist and he's not...and did a lot of science wrong.

Except the contagious disease epidemiologists in question who wrote the report were not acting like all epidemiologists would per se when they recommended not putting elderly folks first in the next phase, which would increase the number of predicted deaths. Looks like the CDC is now recommending they are put first, so those experts seem more in line with the Nate Silver perspective, which seems the more ethical perspective. Questioning experts is called critical thinking. Experts are all operating under various influences and can come to different conclusions. Good for Nate Silver. We need more critical thinking, not less.

I don’t understand where this line of thinking is coming from? Every recommendation I saw, prior to the CDC weighing in, was frontline health workers first, then the elderly.

Frontline health workers are getting first, as we speak, along with residents in long term care. They were going to prioritize essential workers over people over 74, for the next phase. Now they are going to prioritize people over 74, and a smaller group of the frontline essential workers most at risk of exposure, for the next phase (Phase 1b)

Yes, I am both over 74 and an essential worker. My hospital said I would receive the vaccine because of my age, not my job.

Good for you. As it should be. In the end, CDC made the right call in line with Nate Silver et al.'s take on the correct ethics. And thank you for your service.

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Anonymous wrote:Haberman’s mom runs a PR firm that has/has had (not sure which) the Trumps and Kushners as clients, so there’s a perception that she’s pro-Trumps/Kushners.

She’s also about as painfully NYT as it gets and that’s a serious problem in its own right.

I like her insights/reporting on Trump. I think she gets it right and she's no sycophant when interviewed about him.

This. Feel free to criticize the nepotism that helped her get her job, but the people who think she's pro-Trump are waaaaay off base.

She is unbelievably thin-skinned and petulant on social media, beyond defensive is her standard setting. I can’t agree with either of you on the merits.

Nepotism? Thin-skinned? Petulant? Those are all positives for a NYT career!

Oh I thought those are all positives for our President.

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Anonymous wrote:Haberman’s mom runs a PR firm that has/has had (not sure which) the Trumps and Kushners as clients, so there’s a perception that she’s pro-Trumps/Kushners.

She’s also about as painfully NYT as it gets and that’s a serious problem in its own right.

I like her insights/reporting on Trump. I think she gets it right and she's no sycophant when interviewed about him.

This. Feel free to criticize the nepotism that helped her get her job, but the people who think she's pro-Trump are waaaaay off base.

She is unbelievably thin-skinned and petulant on social media, beyond defensive is her standard setting. I can’t agree with either of you on the merits.

Nepotism? Thin-skinned? Petulant? Those are all positives for a NYT career!

Oh I thought those are all positives for our President.

President, NYT, Wall Street, white shoe law, etc. Lots of seemingly negative character traits get rewarded richly in this society's supposedly high-status positions.

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Anonymous wrote:Haberman’s mom runs a PR firm that has/has had (not sure which) the Trumps and Kushners as clients, so there’s a perception that she’s pro-Trumps/Kushners.

She’s also about as painfully NYT as it gets and that’s a serious problem in its own right.

I like her insights/reporting on Trump. I think she gets it right and she's no sycophant when interviewed about him.

This. Feel free to criticize the nepotism that helped her get her job, but the people who think she's pro-Trump are waaaaay off base.

She is unbelievably thin-skinned and petulant on social media, beyond defensive is her standard setting. I can’t agree with either of you on the merits.

Nepotism? Thin-skinned? Petulant? Those are all positives for a NYT career!

Oh I thought those are all positives for our President.

President, NYT, Wall Street, white shoe law, etc. Lots of seemingly negative character traits get rewarded richly in this society's supposedly high-status positions.

And yet, you still voted for Trump. You rewarded him. You. Not someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Haberman’s mom runs a PR firm that has/has had (not sure which) the Trumps and Kushners as clients, so there’s a perception that she’s pro-Trumps/Kushners.

She’s also about as painfully NYT as it gets and that’s a serious problem in its own right.

I like her insights/reporting on Trump. I think she gets it right and she's no sycophant when interviewed about him.

This. Feel free to criticize the nepotism that helped her get her job, but the people who think she's pro-Trump are waaaaay off base.

She is unbelievably thin-skinned and petulant on social media, beyond defensive is her standard setting. I can’t agree with either of you on the merits.

Nepotism? Thin-skinned? Petulant? Those are all positives for a NYT career!

Oh I thought those are all positives for our President.

President, NYT, Wall Street, white shoe law, etc. Lots of seemingly negative character traits get rewarded richly in this society's supposedly high-status positions.

And yet, you still voted for Trump. You rewarded him. You. Not someone else.

You’re imagining things. Seek help!

[Anonymous]

She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

[Anonymous]

well, the "seek help!" retort came quickly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

she's not part of the press pool today

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Anonymous wrote:She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

she's not part of the press pool today

and Trump summoned the press FOR NO REASON EXCEPT THAT HE COULD AND THE PRESS STILL DOES WHAT HE SAYS

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Anonymous wrote:She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

Not to mention tens of millions are currently unemployed and today was a normal work day for over 100 million people – then here comes this out of touch narcissist complaining about her deep six-figure political gossip "job".

[Anonymous]

Her dad Clyde was a Jeopardy question tonight. Weird how she's on twitter literally all day but didn't tweet about that. Wouldn't want to remind her followers how she got her nyt gig, would we...

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Anonymous wrote:She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

Not to mention tens of millions are currently unemployed and today was a normal work day for over 100 million people – then here comes this out of touch narcissist complaining about her deep six-figure political gossip "job".

She is not part of the Florida press pool and did not have to be there at 7:30am. Her point was Trump's an ass. On that, we all agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:She was so thirsty to go viral today she tweeted how cruel it was to have to get up at 7:30 am for a Trump press thing because it's CHRISTMAS EVE!

She's Jewish.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1341930347680968707

Not to mention tens of millions are currently unemployed and today was a normal work day for over 100 million people – then here comes this out of touch narcissist complaining about her deep six-figure political gossip "job".

She is not part of the Florida press pool and did not have to be there at 7:30am. Her point was Trump's an ass. On that, we all agree.

No, her point was seeking attention.