Just finished The Queen's gambit on Netflix

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SPOILER DO NOT READ if you haven't seen the show! - how did her mom die? was it hepatitis? Is it related to her alcoholism?

She said she was in love with Townes? Is that the reporter? Why didn't she pursue that?

Who was the man her real mom Alice was talking to before she died? What were they saying?


I thought her mom died in the car wreck? Wasn't exactly an accident, looked more like suicide to me. Her mom's last words to her were "Close your eyes."


I'm pretty sure the PP is talking about adoptive mom. Beth called her mother, not by her first name, or something else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SPOILER DO NOT READ if you haven't seen the show! - how did her mom die? was it hepatitis? Is it related to her alcoholism?

She said she was in love with Townes? Is that the reporter? Why didn't she pursue that?

Who was the man her real mom Alice was talking to before she died? What were they saying?


That was Beth's dad and his new family/wife. She asks for help with taking care of Beth.


I wasn't sure about this scene. I thought it might be that she had an affair with a married man because he kept telling her she had to get out of there. If it was just a previous wife or relationship why all the secrecy? I feel like there were some unanswered questions with Beth's mom and why she felt she had to do what she did.


I thought her mother was a brilliant math ph.d who was perhaps bipolar or similar and was losing her mind. She was trying to drop off Beth with her real father to keep Beth safe, but when he refused she saw no alternative but to kill both herself and Beth in a car crash. But Beth survived.
Anonymous
Alma the adoptive mother died of alcoholic hepatitis -
Townes was being bi-sexual when she saw him the 2nd time round so nothing happened and didn't you see the scene in Moscow where they talked about this and re-established their friendship?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SPOILER DO NOT READ if you haven't seen the show! - how did her mom die? was it hepatitis? Is it related to her alcoholism?

She said she was in love with Townes? Is that the reporter? Why didn't she pursue that?

Who was the man her real mom Alice was talking to before she died? What were they saying?


That was Beth's dad and his new family/wife. She asks for help with taking care of Beth.


I wasn't sure about this scene. I thought it might be that she had an affair with a married man because he kept telling her she had to get out of there. If it was just a previous wife or relationship why all the secrecy? I feel like there were some unanswered questions with Beth's mom and why she felt she had to do what she did.


I thought her mother was a brilliant math ph.d who was perhaps bipolar or similar and was losing her mind. She was trying to drop off Beth with her real father to keep Beth safe, but when he refused she saw no alternative but to kill both herself and Beth in a car crash. But Beth survived.


But wasn't there a scene where the dad showed up outside Beth and her mom's house and wanted to see her (Beth) but the mom refused. What changed that he would now be telling Alice that she had to leave and couldn't be there at his house? I followed the gist of the story there just seemed to be some missing details, or I blinked and missed.
Anonymous
I loved it, but thought there were some details that were especially unrealistic. Like, I don't think an orphanage in Kentucky in the 40s would be integrated. Also, the idea that massive doses of tranquilizers would activate her chess prodigy seemed very far fetched. I could believe lsd or some hallucinogenic did that more than tranquilizers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I loved it, but thought there were some details that were especially unrealistic. Like, I don't think an orphanage in Kentucky in the 40s would be integrated. Also, the idea that massive doses of tranquilizers would activate her chess prodigy seemed very far fetched. I could believe lsd or some hallucinogenic did that more than tranquilizers.


You don't need to believe it. There are zero real life female chess prodigies for a reason.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I loved it, but thought there were some details that were especially unrealistic. Like, I don't think an orphanage in Kentucky in the 40s would be integrated. Also, the idea that massive doses of tranquilizers would activate her chess prodigy seemed very far fetched. I could believe lsd or some hallucinogenic did that more than tranquilizers.


Actually, I totally believe that. My uncle's wife grew up in an orphanage in rural Georgia and it was in fact integrated. It was more a function of the white children in orphanages being completely impoverished as well.
Anonymous
I have mixed feelings about this show. I hate to be the lone dissenter, but the worst part of it was the main character - Beth. She was the flattest, least sympathetic character I’ve seen in a long time. She never took the time to return to the orphanage and thank Mr. Shaibel. She used all her friends who had spent so much time helping her. She never once looked up her old friend, Jolene, after being adopted. Not even one letter. Jolene had nothing and Beth had everything - yet it was Jolene who came and found Beth.

I thought Anya Taylor-Joy was fantastic in “The Witch,” but this role did nothing for me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have mixed feelings about this show. I hate to be the lone dissenter, but the worst part of it was the main character - Beth. She was the flattest, least sympathetic character I’ve seen in a long time. She never took the time to return to the orphanage and thank Mr. Shaibel. She used all her friends who had spent so much time helping her. She never once looked up her old friend, Jolene, after being adopted. Not even one letter. Jolene had nothing and Beth had everything - yet it was Jolene who came and found Beth.

I thought Anya Taylor-Joy was fantastic in “The Witch,” but this role did nothing for me.


Her mother was mentally ill, her father rejected her, then she was in an orphanage, then she was adopted by an alcoholic mother and a father who rejected her. Of COURSE she used people to get what she needed. It's basically a light version of RAD.
Anonymous
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So do we think she stayed in Russia? Or was that last scene meant to just hearken back to her games with the janitor in the basement?


I think she defected and stayed! I thought it was a crazy twist that she had actually become enamored with Russia, the chess culture, and the language and had been co-opted. I don’t know if in my hypothetical future, she returned to the US as a Russian spy or just stayed in Russia, but I thought it was too striking of a scene to not mean anything.
Anonymous
I didn’t like big parts of it. She was so prim and proper and dressed well and it didn’t jive with her upbringing. By the time she was adopted, she would have already formed how she crossed her legs, how she sat upright, etc.

I didn’t like how the camera cuts away and ends an episode where she’s od’ed in the ground as a young girl and we learn nothing about what happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I didn’t like big parts of it. She was so prim and proper and dressed well and it didn’t jive with her upbringing. By the time she was adopted, she would have already formed how she crossed her legs, how she sat upright, etc.

I didn’t like how the camera cuts away and ends an episode where she’s od’ed in the ground as a young girl and we learn nothing about what happened.


I don’t think you’ve watched every episode? Some scenes were flashbacks to earlier episodes.
Anonymous
I’m 16:52 and forgot to add what I DID like - the fashions! Especially in the last episode. Great dresses and coats and I loved the very last white outfit. Divine!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn’t like big parts of it. She was so prim and proper and dressed well and it didn’t jive with her upbringing. By the time she was adopted, she would have already formed how she crossed her legs, how she sat upright, etc.

I didn’t like how the camera cuts away and ends an episode where she’s od’ed in the ground as a young girl and we learn nothing about what happened.


I don’t think you’ve watched every episode? Some scenes were flashbacks to earlier episodes.


I have 20 min left of the last episode. I’ve seen them all but that, in the last 3 days. There were no scenes showing what happened after she grabbed all the drugs from the school “pharmacy,” and fell off the stool after passing out.
Anonymous
That was like the 2nd or 3rd episode
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