Initiative 81

[Anonymous]

I am personally not happy with what weed legalization has done to my neighborhood and building. However, I will tolerate it if it's actually helping black communities not suffer unnecessarily. Shrooms, however, aren't a reason black people get locked up. This will benefit no one personally. People aren't being jailed for consuming shrooms. Pharma companies can do their research without us legalizing it. The last thing I want is to add openly hallucinating people on the commercial strip in my hood to the openly high and smoking people.

[Anonymous]

I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But seeing how DC does not enforce anything, there will be abuse, it will get sloppy, and overdoses will be a problem.

It will be public. You are not going to get around that. Whereas now you see people high and pot and smoking in public, you are going to see people on some massive hallucinogenic trip, walking around town, at your kids schools, in a museum, etc.

Still a NO on my side. Sorry.

Honestly, you can microdose and walk around and are generally fine. It’s more of a body buzz if you take a little. The ceos out in silicone valley are doing it. Look it up. There are so many misinformed dorks on here. Im honestly more worried that you can slam a bottle of vodka legally and rage out and beat up your wife and then drive your Ford into a brick wall which smashes over and crushes three toddlers heading to see fking disney on ice at the horizon center in Chinatown. Mushrooms make you want to pretty much chill in a comfortable place, listen to King Tubby and then sleep in 7 hours. Also, you wake up and your depression has been mitigated or is cured for a period of time. Your physical health is not impacted and there is no throwing up hangover. So...you know what? Shut up. Please just shut up you misinformed dorks and trolls. I bid you adieu.

Wow, relax man. You need to go out back and smoke a few bowls. Everything will be groovy man...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/publication/marijuana-arrest-data 12k people is a lot of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/publication/marijuana-arrest-data 12k people is a lot of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Super PACS are spending this kind of money, you can guarantee that they are paying people to post to blogs like this one, pushing their pro drugs agenda. Some of the replies you read on this site are right out of the Trump playbook: aggressive and nasty, and kicking below the belt. Cheap shots.

Who are these mysterious pacs? Is it Qanon? I, myself, only contribute to private prison supporting pacs. I’m excited that you’re taking such a common sense but hostile approach to the potential reform of laws that keep poor folks out of prison for long periods of time. Rather than them seeking medical treatment, which we all know doesn’t work, and may cause us valuable beds, we need to double down on our current approach which has been a tremendous success.

This isn’t outside groups. This is about a lady, a district employee, who’s depression was cured by mushrooms. Yes, mushrooms. I know it sounds nuts because your knee jerk reaction is outrage at that possibility, but it’s true.

This is insightful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-mushroom-decriminalization/2020/10/08/b19a1a70-0712-11eb-991c-be6ead8c4018_story.html

Mason Marks, an attorney and physician who teaches health law at Harvard Law School, said “there will still be many critics, but it’s difficult to argue that decriminalization is a bad idea.” Racial justice protests over police shootings that galvanized the nation this summer have made the ballot initiative more relevant, he said.

Comment section of that post article is worth reading too.

I am not opposed to decriminalization, but I want it done properly, and minimum laws enforced. If the initiative 71 decriminalizing pot is any indication, DC will also refuse to enforce the mushroom law and people will be tripping in public, just like the roll and smoke in front of schools now. No thanks. not until the Mayor gets a backbone and starts enforcing at least 10% of our laws, especially those around drugs and alcohol.

This is how I feel too. People used the same medicinal need argument for pot and look where that got us. There is a better way to make needed medicine available. Regulate it the way other narcotics are regulated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/publication/marijuana-arrest-data 12k people is a lot of people.

That is seven years worth of non-custodial "arrests."

[Anonymous]

No to more public intoxication, no to unregulated "medications," and no to turning the populace into a bunch of lotus eaters. Lots of plants are poisonous. How is the argument that plants are by definition innocuous reasonable at all? And if you really want to be pedantic, fungi are not plants, you silly junkies.

Seriously, haven't any of you, when talking to too many Boomers, wondered how many more brain cells they might have had if they hadn't taken drugs in the '60s and '70s? Or are they your parents, since I assume the push for this is coming from Millenials as well as old hippies, and they raised you with stories romanticizing their youthful depravity so you think it's healthy and right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No to more public intoxication, no to unregulated "medications," and no to turning the populace into a bunch of lotus eaters. Lots of plants are poisonous. How is the argument that plants are by definition innocuous reasonable at all? And if you really want to be pedantic, fungi are not plants, you silly junkies.

Seriously, haven't any of you, when talking to too many Boomers, wondered how many more brain cells they might have had if they hadn't taken drugs in the '60s and '70s? Or are they your parents, since I assume the push for this is coming from Millenials as well as old hippies, and they raised you with stories romanticizing their youthful depravity so you think it's healthy and right?

Right on! Say it as it is...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/publication/marijuana-arrest-data 12k people is a lot of people.

That is seven years worth of non-custodial "arrests."

With fines...that trap people in the system....they get arrested for not paying fines. Try harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No to more public intoxication, no to unregulated "medications," and no to turning the populace into a bunch of lotus eaters. Lots of plants are poisonous. How is the argument that plants are by definition innocuous reasonable at all? And if you really want to be pedantic, fungi are not plants, you silly junkies.

Seriously, haven't any of you, when talking to too many Boomers, wondered how many more brain cells they might have had if they hadn't taken drugs in the '60s and '70s? Or are they your parents, since I assume the push for this is coming from Millenials as well as old hippies, and they raised you with stories romanticizing their youthful depravity so you think it's healthy and right?

I don't romanticize it - but people did not use to go to jail, and be trapped in a debt cycle resulting in more jail for minor drug use and DUIs. We have gone to far in the other directions. Jail/Prison used to be about rehabilitating people. No longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not idea what you all are talking about. I don't see anyone being locked up for drugs in DC. Pot, heroin, LSD, Mushrooms... In fact, short of robbing a bank which is slightly frowned upon, it is a free for all. You can run red lights and stop signs, heck even the police do it.

So this will not change much except give people free reign to do drugs openly for all to see. People will get stoned in the streets and instead of 5% of the population passed out, you will get 10% lets say.

And this idiotic argument that people on weed and mushrooms are perfect little mellow high angels, while the only ones killing people driving around around those drunkards, this is the same as those pushing these drugs as being perfectly safe for everyone to partake in.

I don't buy this "DC is going to be a wonderfully better place now that drugs are legal" argument.

First, you don’t understand the initiative. It won’t legalize drugs.

Second, it won’t matter. You’re going to lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No to more public intoxication, no to unregulated "medications," and no to turning the populace into a bunch of lotus eaters. Lots of plants are poisonous. How is the argument that plants are by definition innocuous reasonable at all? And if you really want to be pedantic, fungi are not plants, you silly junkies.

Seriously, haven't any of you, when talking to too many Boomers, wondered how many more brain cells they might have had if they hadn't taken drugs in the '60s and '70s? Or are they your parents, since I assume the push for this is coming from Millenials as well as old hippies, and they raised you with stories romanticizing their youthful depravity so you think it's healthy and right?

Lol. Wut?

You sound like you have something stuck so far up yer bum bum you could turn a lump of coal into a diamond, man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If Super PACS are spending this kind of money, you can guarantee that they are paying people to post to blogs like this one, pushing their pro drugs agenda. Some of the replies you read on this site are right out of the Trump playbook: aggressive and nasty, and kicking below the belt. Cheap shots.

Who are these mysterious pacs? Is it Qanon? I, myself, only contribute to private prison supporting pacs. I’m excited that you’re taking such a common sense but hostile approach to the potential reform of laws that keep poor folks out of prison for long periods of time. Rather than them seeking medical treatment, which we all know doesn’t work, and may cause us valuable beds, we need to double down on our current approach which has been a tremendous success.

This isn’t outside groups. This is about a lady, a district employee, who’s depression was cured by mushrooms. Yes, mushrooms. I know it sounds nuts because your knee jerk reaction is outrage at that possibility, but it’s true.

This is insightful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-mushroom-decriminalization/2020/10/08/b19a1a70-0712-11eb-991c-be6ead8c4018_story.html

Mason Marks, an attorney and physician who teaches health law at Harvard Law School, said “there will still be many critics, but it’s difficult to argue that decriminalization is a bad idea.” Racial justice protests over police shootings that galvanized the nation this summer have made the ballot initiative more relevant, he said.

Comment section of that post article is worth reading too.

I am not opposed to decriminalization, but I want it done properly, and minimum laws enforced. If the initiative 71 decriminalizing pot is any indication, DC will also refuse to enforce the mushroom law and people will be tripping in public, just like the roll and smoke in front of schools now. No thanks. not until the Mayor gets a backbone and starts enforcing at least 10% of our laws, especially those around drugs and alcohol.

This is how I feel too. People used the same medicinal need argument for pot and look where that got us. There is a better way to make needed medicine available. Regulate it the way other narcotics are regulated.

Where did it get us? I don't even follow the dog whistle here. Now I can have edibles delivered to my house and get a buzz and a good night's sleep after my toddler goes down so that I can wake up refreshed and lawyer another day away. Are people really just this traumatized by smelling pot smoke that they think DC is a hellscape since legalization?

If you actually live here you should remember that before it was legalized kids were buying "Spice" at bodegas and frying their brains and randomly attacking people on the street because they thought it would get them high and it was actually super dangerous. Legalizing pot has not been a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Super PACS are spending this kind of money, you can guarantee that they are paying people to post to blogs like this one, pushing their pro drugs agenda. Some of the replies you read on this site are right out of the Trump playbook: aggressive and nasty, and kicking below the belt. Cheap shots.

Who are these mysterious pacs? Is it Qanon? I, myself, only contribute to private prison supporting pacs. I’m excited that you’re taking such a common sense but hostile approach to the potential reform of laws that keep poor folks out of prison for long periods of time. Rather than them seeking medical treatment, which we all know doesn’t work, and may cause us valuable beds, we need to double down on our current approach which has been a tremendous success.

This isn’t outside groups. This is about a lady, a district employee, who’s depression was cured by mushrooms. Yes, mushrooms. I know it sounds nuts because your knee jerk reaction is outrage at that possibility, but it’s true.

This is insightful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-mushroom-decriminalization/2020/10/08/b19a1a70-0712-11eb-991c-be6ead8c4018_story.html

Mason Marks, an attorney and physician who teaches health law at Harvard Law School, said “there will still be many critics, but it’s difficult to argue that decriminalization is a bad idea.” Racial justice protests over police shootings that galvanized the nation this summer have made the ballot initiative more relevant, he said.

Comment section of that post article is worth reading too.

I am not opposed to decriminalization, but I want it done properly, and minimum laws enforced. If the initiative 71 decriminalizing pot is any indication, DC will also refuse to enforce the mushroom law and people will be tripping in public, just like the roll and smoke in front of schools now. No thanks. not until the Mayor gets a backbone and starts enforcing at least 10% of our laws, especially those around drugs and alcohol.

This is how I feel too. People used the same medicinal need argument for pot and look where that got us. There is a better way to make needed medicine available. Regulate it the way other narcotics are regulated.

Where did it get us? I don't even follow the dog whistle here. Now I can have edibles delivered to my house and get a buzz and a good night's sleep after my toddler goes down so that I can wake up refreshed and lawyer another day away. Are people really just this traumatized by smelling pot smoke that they think DC is a hellscape since legalization?

If you actually live here you should remember that before it was legalized kids were buying "Spice" at bodegas and frying their brains and randomly attacking people on the street because they thought it would get them high and it was actually super dangerous. Legalizing pot has not been a bad thing.

That's a good point about K2/Spice. Is that stuff mostly gone? I haven't heard about bad batches messing people up nearly as often.