Initiative 81

[Anonymous]

Too many drugs in DC as it is. City is not going in the right direction. Become less and less family oriented and more about allowing selfish people to do as they please at the expense of others... Pot smoking is just one example. These motorcycle gangs that terrorize neighborhoods on illegal bikes is another. City is being taken over by selfish Aholes. And the police sit there and do nothing. It is sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many drugs in DC as it is. City is not going in the right direction. Become less and less family oriented and more about allowing selfish people to do as they please at the expense of others... Pot smoking is just one example. These motorcycle gangs that terrorize neighborhoods on illegal bikes is another. City is being taken over by selfish Aholes. And the police sit there and do nothing. It is sad.

What I wonder about is how all these younger (20’s-30’s) parents who are voting for this now, because THEY enjoy drugs, are going to feel in a few years when their 12 year old OD’s on peyote or mushrooms.

(Yes, I realize that ODing on peyote or other psychedelic plants isn’t fatal, but it can definitely put you in the hospital, as my sister can attest to, so spare me the lectures about how “safe” they are)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many drugs in DC as it is. City is not going in the right direction. Become less and less family oriented and more about allowing selfish people to do as they please at the expense of others... Pot smoking is just one example. These motorcycle gangs that terrorize neighborhoods on illegal bikes is another. City is being taken over by selfish Aholes. And the police sit there and do nothing. It is sad.

What I wonder about is how all these younger (20’s-30’s) parents who are voting for this now, because THEY enjoy drugs, are going to feel in a few years when their 12 year old OD’s on peyote or mushrooms.

(Yes, I realize that ODing on peyote or other psychedelic plants isn’t fatal, but it can definitely put you in the hospital, as my sister can attest to, so spare me the lectures about how “safe” they are)

I've heard, here and in life, from basically zero peyote or shrooms users supporting this. The support is from people who think that abuse of these drugs should be treated like a public health issue, not by putting people in jail. I'm not a user of any of the drugs listed (or anything other than a glass of wine or beer), but I support this. Use of them is positive for some people, negative for some people, but in ways that are much better treated at the hospital (like your sister experienced) and not in a cell.

I'd also target my kid OD on peyote than whiskey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many drugs in DC as it is. City is not going in the right direction. Become less and less family oriented and more about allowing selfish people to do as they please at the expense of others... Pot smoking is just one example. These motorcycle gangs that terrorize neighborhoods on illegal bikes is another. City is being taken over by selfish Aholes. And the police sit there and do nothing. It is sad.

What I wonder about is how all these younger (20’s-30’s) parents who are voting for this now, because THEY enjoy drugs, are going to feel in a few years when their 12 year old OD’s on peyote or mushrooms.

(Yes, I realize that ODing on peyote or other psychedelic plants isn’t fatal, but it can definitely put you in the hospital, as my sister can attest to, so spare me the lectures about how “safe” they are)

I've heard, here and in life, from basically zero peyote or shrooms users supporting this. The support is from people who think that abuse of these drugs should be treated like a public health issue, not by putting people in jail. I'm not a user of any of the drugs listed (or anything other than a glass of wine or beer), but I support this. Use of them is positive for some people, negative for some people, but in ways that are much better treated at the hospital (like your sister experienced) and not in a cell.

I'd also target my kid OD on peyote than whiskey.

Exactly this. I'm in my 30s with kids a couple of years away from middle school. I care about getting people the help they need not jailing them. Same goes for my kids. I intend to explain in detail the various drugs out there. They'll have to choose for themselves. But it they do experiment, I don't want them to be worried about asking for help.

[Anonymous]

But seeing how DC does not enforce anything, there will be abuse, it will get sloppy, and overdoses will be a problem.

It will be public. You are not going to get around that. Whereas now you see people high and pot and smoking in public, you are going to see people on some massive hallucinogenic trip, walking around town, at your kids schools, in a museum, etc.

Still a NO on my side. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

I still have never seen any proof that people are being thrown in jail for using mushrooms. Has anyone else here? And I am talking about DC here, not California or Colorado, or some other state out west, where I suspect some of those responding here are living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But seeing how DC does not enforce anything, there will be abuse, it will get sloppy, and overdoses will be a problem.

It will be public. You are not going to get around that. Whereas now you see people high and pot and smoking in public, you are going to see people on some massive hallucinogenic trip, walking around town, at your kids schools, in a museum, etc.

Still a NO on my side. Sorry.

So if there's someone on a bad trip in public, do you want police to come and arrest them? Or public health to help them? I just don't get how you think criminalizing and police is an appropriate response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still have never seen any proof that people are being thrown in jail for using mushrooms. Has anyone else here? And I am talking about DC here, not California or Colorado, or some other state out west, where I suspect some of those responding here are living.

So we should wait for it to be a problem before we address the issue? Do you also believe that we shouldn't work on traffic safety until enough people have died at an intersection?

[Anonymous]

Encouraging public use of drugs is not good. hallucinogenic in public will not be good.

It is not legal to smoke pot in public, but since there is no enforcement (fines), most DC residents and guests think it is legal to smoke in public.

This is going to encourage more open drug use. If you want to bring traffic issues into, probably incase those too. People smoke pot in their cars and then drive around. Imagine people driving after taking hallucinogenics!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Encouraging public use of drugs is not good. hallucinogenic in public will not be good.

It is not legal to smoke pot in public, but since there is no enforcement (fines), most DC residents and guests think it is legal to smoke in public.

This is going to encourage more open drug use. If you want to bring traffic issues into, probably incase those too. People smoke pot in their cars and then drive around. Imagine people driving after taking hallucinogenics!

We would save so many more lives by dealing with texting while driving, which is a real problem, compared to your hypothetical progression of problems.

[Anonymous]

I voted yes and I have never used any drugs, psychedelics or otherwise. My parents are major potheads and did mushrooms in the 60s/70s and it is not a good look. That said, our criminal justice system needs major reform and the war on drugs is an abject failure. So, if having legal psychedelics in the District keeps one idiot kid (or idiot baby boomer) out of being gang-raped, etc. in jail- it is worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I voted yes and I have never used any drugs, psychedelics or otherwise. My parents are major potheads and did mushrooms in the 60s/70s and it is not a good look. That said, our criminal justice system needs major reform and the war on drugs is an abject failure. So, if having legal psychedelics in the District keeps one idiot kid (or idiot baby boomer) out of being gang-raped, etc. in jail- it is worth it.

So what you are suggesting is to first legalize this drug, then reform the system? I do not get your logic. And if this was your reasoning to decriminalize pot, we can see what that result was. Not positive either.

I think we can all agree that we need to reform the justice system, but I think that legalizing everything is not really the best approach. It would be better to start with the judicial system, then figure out what we want to legalize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I voted yes and I have never used any drugs, psychedelics or otherwise. My parents are major potheads and did mushrooms in the 60s/70s and it is not a good look. That said, our criminal justice system needs major reform and the war on drugs is an abject failure. So, if having legal psychedelics in the District keeps one idiot kid (or idiot baby boomer) out of being gang-raped, etc. in jail- it is worth it.

So what you are suggesting is to first legalize this drug, then reform the system? I do not get your logic. And if this was your reasoning to decriminalize pot, we can see what that result was. Not positive either.

I think we can all agree that we need to reform the justice system, but I think that legalizing everything is not really the best approach. It would be better to start with the judicial system, then figure out what we want to legalize.

I am suggesting that there is a difference between marijuana/mushrooms and heroin, and putting people in jail for low-level drug offenses only fuels mass incarceration, traps people in downward spirals of being not hirable, in debt, etc. I do not think the result of decriminalizing pot in the District has been objectively a failure. We do not have enough data points to assess it, for one. Our judicial system needs a lot of reform, but this is a slow-moving process, particularly for DC residents. It will be the states who have legalized low-level drugs, and prioritized diversion/rehab over incarceration that have quantifiable data that will drive a national policy, not the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too many drugs in DC as it is. City is not going in the right direction. Become less and less family oriented and more about allowing selfish people to do as they please at the expense of others... Pot smoking is just one example. These motorcycle gangs that terrorize neighborhoods on illegal bikes is another. City is being taken over by selfish Aholes. And the police sit there and do nothing. It is sad.

What I wonder about is how all these younger (20’s-30’s) parents who are voting for this now, because THEY enjoy drugs, are going to feel in a few years when their 12 year old OD’s on peyote or mushrooms.

(Yes, I realize that ODing on peyote or other psychedelic plants isn’t fatal, but it can definitely put you in the hospital, as my sister can attest to, so spare me the lectures about how “safe” they are)

Sorry about your sister. I’m glad she wasn’t arrested and put in jail which would cause her to lose her job, her future etc. that happens to many folks locked up for drugs.

We’ll see. The election is next week. I’m voting yes. It works better for Portugal and other forward thinking nations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But seeing how DC does not enforce anything, there will be abuse, it will get sloppy, and overdoses will be a problem.

It will be public. You are not going to get around that. Whereas now you see people high and pot and smoking in public, you are going to see people on some massive hallucinogenic trip, walking around town, at your kids schools, in a museum, etc.

Still a NO on my side. Sorry.

Honestly, you can microdose and walk around and are generally fine. It’s more of a body buzz if you take a little. The ceos out in silicone valley are doing it. Look it up. There are so many misinformed dorks on here. Im honestly more worried that you can slam a bottle of vodka legally and rage out and beat up your wife and then drive your Ford into a brick wall which smashes over and crushes three toddlers heading to see fking disney on ice at the horizon center in Chinatown. Mushrooms make you want to pretty much chill in a comfortable place, listen to King Tubby and then sleep in 7 hours. Also, you wake up and your depression has been mitigated or is cured for a period of time. Your physical health is not impacted and there is no throwing up hangover. So...you know what? Shut up. Please just shut up you misinformed dorks and trolls. I bid you adieu.