Amy Coney Barrett- what in the actual F?

[Anonymous]

All of you are grasping at straws. How many children have you adopted? How many special needs kids are you raising? Oh, that's right, just abort them and move one. Bunch of pearl clutching hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:Earlier today, a friend of mine posted something about ACB and how we should pay attention to the way that she introduces her children, basically crowing about the academic achievements of the white children and basically saying that the biggest achievement of the black adoptive children is that they came from Haiti. I’m not sure I’m fully on board with that criticism, but as I was looking for the clip, I came across this article, which talks about how when she was adopting her second child, she found out she was pregnant.

It goes on to say “ Just as her husband was making final arrangements to pick John Peter up at the airport in Florida and complete the adoption, Amy learned that she was pregnant with Juliet. For about three hours, they weren't sure what decision to make. They had wanted five, but now it was looking like five and six were coming together. While taking a walk, Amy realized that her most significant impact on the world was raising her children. They decided to welcome John Peter into their family. A few days later, the three-year-old arrived at their home.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.moms.com/amy-coney-barretts-children/amp/

Mind you, this is immediately after the Haiti earthquake. OK so I have never adopted a child, but I literally cannot imagine the thought process of somebody who goes to Haiti to adopt a three year old child and then finds out that she is pregnant so then has second thoughts about going through with the adoption, literally having just rescued the orphan child from an earthquake destroyed foreign country. What kind of a person does this, and then freely admits to it as a point of pride in an interview? I’m disgusted. Which child wants to grow up reading this? If I were adopted I think I’d probably want to hear from my mom that she never doubted for a second that she wanted me. Not that she had a three hour window of debating whether or not I was worthy of her love.

Enough said. “I have never adopted a child.” This is likely the most hypocritical post ever. Have you ever been to Haiti or helped anyone other than yourself? Probably not. Then you throw race into it when she’s adopted two kids from Haiti. She’s a better human being than you’ll ever hope to be. Now, will she make a good justice? Who the heck knows, but you’re a complete and utter clown.

I have never adopted a child but I certainly have a child, and I know that I would never, ever fly to Haiti, form a parental relationship with a three year old over the course of several months, tell them that I was going to be their mommy, make all the preparations to pack up the child, remove them from their current surroundings and country, fly to another country with them, and then once there - reconsider if I wanted them at all bc I was pregnant. I would never do that. How very Christian of her. No PP, she is not a better human being than me. She's just more white and more "religious".

DP. You’re speaking from a place of ignorance. I have both bio and adopted children (domestic adoption with international flair). One thing that is made 100% clear to all prospective adoptive parents is that until the adoption is finalized that child is not your child. Indeed, there are numerous heartbreaking stories of children going home with adoptive parents only for the process to be undone legally. I also have a law degree and once you understand the family law dynamics to the adoption process on top of what your adoption agency is telling you, you don’t breath a sigh of relief and it is in the back of your mind that that child is not your child until the documents are finalized. Not because you would bail, but because that’s how the process works.

You’re applying your framework to how you would react but a comfortable percentage of parents who have been through adoption would have reacted like she did. We have friends in our neighborhood who were deep into the adoption process thinking they would never be able to conceive when they got a surprise pregnancy. Their bio daughter was born 2 months after their adopted daughter. These scenarios are not uncommon.

[Anonymous]

I cannot stand barrett but I do not believe that she was using her children.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually know where John Roberts adopted his two kids? It never came out in his confirmation hearings—maybe because they are white and not black, the liberals gave him a pass.

They supposedly came from Ireland, where abortion was illegal at the time. See a trend here?

I honestly think someone has leverage over Roberts on this issue.

The adoption was also illegal in that Ireland has a law that Irish children who are adopted must stay in Ireland. His kids were blown to another country and adopted there.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand barrett but I do not believe that she was using her children.

I feel the same way. I mean, I’m sure if she had a few minutes to describe each child, she would have presented a more nuanced view. But she’s got 7 of them and so we don’t have time for a full paragraph on each.

Also kids are all different, it could be the child who she described as deadlifting isn’t super into academics. I mean she explained it-that child wasn’t expected to walk. So being an athlete is sort of impressive.

I can’t stand her either, truly, but her way of describing her children would not be on my list of reasons why.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand barrett but I do not believe that she was using her children.

I feel the same way. I mean, I’m sure if she had a few minutes to describe each child, she would have presented a more nuanced view. But she’s got 7 of them and so we don’t have time for a full paragraph on each.

Also kids are all different, it could be the child who she described as deadlifting isn’t super into academics. I mean she explained it-that child wasn’t expected to walk. So being an athlete is sort of impressive.

I can’t stand her either, truly, but her way of describing her children would not be on my list of reasons why.

Odd that it's only the biological kids that get one kind of praise, and the adopted kids that get a completely different kind, isn't it?

You don't compare your kids publicly like that if it is only going to highlight differences. She's a SCOTUS candidate, for heaven's sake. Don't you think all of her kids are going to know how they were discussed? And they didn't have to be -- let's be clear, her private life COULD have stayed private. She discussed them publicly and on the record for a reason.

Why not just say "We have 7 children, and we love them all for the unique and wonderful that they are."

[Anonymous]

^^unique and wonderful young people

[Anonymous]

I homeschooled my kid for a couple of years when we lived in a southern city for a little while.


They went to the local homeschool co-op group classes that had a large number of these evangelical, white savior families.

Lots of adopted kids from different countries. They collected them like they were ornaments. The oldest ones were always quiet and always holding a biological baby or toddler in their arms. The younger adopted ones were always getting in trouble for one thing or another by their adoptive parents or the church community.

ACB is eerily similar to many of them, in looks, in demeanor, in speech.

It was really disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand barrett but I do not believe that she was using her children.

I feel the same way. I mean, I’m sure if she had a few minutes to describe each child, she would have presented a more nuanced view. But she’s got 7 of them and so we don’t have time for a full paragraph on each.

Also kids are all different, it could be the child who she described as deadlifting isn’t super into academics. I mean she explained it-that child wasn’t expected to walk. So being an athlete is sort of impressive.

I can’t stand her either, truly, but her way of describing her children would not be on my list of reasons why.

Odd that it's only the biological kids that get one kind of praise, and the adopted kids that get a completely different kind, isn't it?

You don't compare your kids publicly like that if it is only going to highlight differences. She's a SCOTUS candidate, for heaven's sake. Don't you think all of her kids are going to know how they were discussed? And they didn't have to be -- let's be clear, her private life COULD have stayed private. She discussed them publicly and on the record for a reason.

Why not just say "We have 7 children, and we love them all for the unique and wonderful that they are."

Exactly this. She has 7 kids - you address them as one big family. Why the need to give a description of each, only to segregate your adopted children of color? It was scripted and unnecessarily performative. These kids are going to see this once they are old enough.

ACB strikes me as high IQ/low EQ. Perhaps a malignant narcissist, but more adept at hiding it than Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually know where John Roberts adopted his two kids? It never came out in his confirmation hearings—maybe because they are white and not black, the liberals gave him a pass.

They supposedly came from Ireland, where abortion was illegal at the time. See a trend here?

I honestly think someone has leverage over Roberts on this issue.

The adoption was also illegal in that Ireland has a law that Irish children who are adopted must stay in Ireland. His kids were blown to another country and adopted there.

Holy sh#t. This is massive leverage over Roberts. Wtf?

And someone clearly facilitated on his behalf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Earlier today, a friend of mine posted something about ACB and how we should pay attention to the way that she introduces her children, basically crowing about the academic achievements of the white children and basically saying that the biggest achievement of the black adoptive children is that they came from Haiti. I’m not sure I’m fully on board with that criticism, but as I was looking for the clip, I came across this article, which talks about how when she was adopting her second child, she found out she was pregnant.

It goes on to say “ Just as her husband was making final arrangements to pick John Peter up at the airport in Florida and complete the adoption, Amy learned that she was pregnant with Juliet. For about three hours, they weren't sure what decision to make. They had wanted five, but now it was looking like five and six were coming together. While taking a walk, Amy realized that her most significant impact on the world was raising her children. They decided to welcome John Peter into their family. A few days later, the three-year-old arrived at their home.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.moms.com/amy-coney-barretts-children/amp/

Mind you, this is immediately after the Haiti earthquake. OK so I have never adopted a child, but I literally cannot imagine the thought process of somebody who goes to Haiti to adopt a three year old child and then finds out that she is pregnant so then has second thoughts about going through with the adoption, literally having just rescued the orphan child from an earthquake destroyed foreign country. What kind of a person does this, and then freely admits to it as a point of pride in an interview? I’m disgusted. Which child wants to grow up reading this? If I were adopted I think I’d probably want to hear from my mom that she never doubted for a second that she wanted me. Not that she had a three hour window of debating whether or not I was worthy of her love.

Enough said. “I have never adopted a child.” This is likely the most hypocritical post ever. Have you ever been to Haiti or helped anyone other than yourself? Probably not. Then you throw race into it when she’s adopted two kids from Haiti. She’s a better human being than you’ll ever hope to be. Now, will she make a good justice? Who the heck knows, but you’re a complete and utter clown.

I have never adopted a child but I certainly have a child, and I know that I would never, ever fly to Haiti, form a parental relationship with a three year old over the course of several months, tell them that I was going to be their mommy, make all the preparations to pack up the child, remove them from their current surroundings and country, fly to another country with them, and then once there - reconsider if I wanted them at all bc I was pregnant. I would never do that. How very Christian of her. No PP, she is not a better human being than me. She's just more white and more "religious".

DP. You’re speaking from a place of ignorance. I have both bio and adopted children (domestic adoption with international flair). One thing that is made 100% clear to all prospective adoptive parents is that until the adoption is finalized that child is not your child. Indeed, there are numerous heartbreaking stories of children going home with adoptive parents only for the process to be undone legally. I also have a law degree and once you understand the family law dynamics to the adoption process on top of what your adoption agency is telling you, you don’t breath a sigh of relief and it is in the back of your mind that that child is not your child until the documents are finalized. Not because you would bail, but because that’s how the process works.

You’re applying your framework to how you would react but a comfortable percentage of parents who have been through adoption would have reacted like she did. We have friends in our neighborhood who were deep into the adoption process thinking they would never be able to conceive when they got a surprise pregnancy. Their bio daughter was born 2 months after their adopted daughter. These scenarios are not uncommon.

I do t have to adopt to know that it is disgusting to be holding a bonded three year old child in your arms and think “well, now I’m pregnant so maybe I won’t go through with this.” And that is NOT the same as a scenario where the adoption does not go through due to external legal/political/administrative factors. Don’t be disingenuous- she didn’t want the baby anymore bc she was having her own baby. And she said as much in stark language in an interview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of you are grasping at straws. How many children have you adopted? How many special needs kids are you raising? Oh, that's right, just abort them and move one. Bunch of pearl clutching hypocrites.

Number of children I have kidnapped from Haiti: 0.

[Anonymous]

People need to listen to adult adoptees. Especially Black adult adoptees who were adopted by White parents. Most of them do not/did not appreciate their parents sharing their story so publicly. You can see the "white saviorism" coming through in ACB. Also, how is it that she has 2 Black kids and has never read a book on structural racism in the US? That is irresponsible and dangerous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand barrett but I do not believe that she was using her children.

I feel the same way. I mean, I’m sure if she had a few minutes to describe each child, she would have presented a more nuanced view. But she’s got 7 of them and so we don’t have time for a full paragraph on each.

Also kids are all different, it could be the child who she described as deadlifting isn’t super into academics. I mean she explained it-that child wasn’t expected to walk. So being an athlete is sort of impressive.

I can’t stand her either, truly, but her way of describing her children would not be on my list of reasons why.

My issue is that she’s very publicly saying things about her kids that will be around forever — and, whether or not she’s consciously aware of it, she did her kids a disservice. While the racial differences stood out to me, it’s possible that the publicly proclaimed academic expectations that she has for at least some of her white, biological kids, could be just as disrespectful of their individual needs. As other PPs have said, she could have said something general about how she enjoys being able to support each of her children as they grow to develop their individual strengths and interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of you are grasping at straws. How many children have you adopted? How many special needs kids are you raising? Oh, that's right, just abort them and move one. Bunch of pearl clutching hypocrites.

2 adopted, one special needs. No straws in my hand. ACB is typical white savior that is so common among adptive parents that I know