I don't like test prep however please dont blame Asian on that

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

There is no law against prepping or preparing.

Of course there's no law against it. But there shouldn't be a system in place that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars to gain an advantage. We pro-TJ reform folks agree that this applies to college exam prep as well, which is why we applaud schools moving to test-blind and test-optional admissions processes.

If you're going to try to make an argument, explain why there SHOULD be a system in place that rewards families for spending thousands of dollars and hours to gain an advantage.

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Right. White parents spend too much money on their kids prepping.

A lot of people spend too much money on their kids prepping. When you're talking about public education opportunities, that shouldn't be the case.

Elite colleges can do whatever the hell they want - they are businesses and are interested in bringing in students who will help them make more money.

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely areas where other races use what they have to their advantage to get a leg up- but no uproar from the masses and xenophobic statements made about them.

Rich white parents prep the hell out their kids with tutors and paying off college counselors.

Legacies overstep the regulars.

Sports scholarships and recruited athletes for some sports are nearly the majority one race. No one cries foul there.

Private sport coaches are used by the privileged and not so privileged to prep for intense competition, get on the right teams, get better recs on applications.

Private college counselors that know the right people in the right places give huge advantages to kids that may not cut it as a regular applicant.

Some people having lived here for generations, know how to navigate the ins and outs of schools, colleges, workplaces and they know someone that knows someone, that went to school with someone and thus get ahead that way.

Many Asian families do not have any of the above privleges afforded to them. What they do have is a culture that values top notch education.

This BS with white people and black people crying about prepping being unfair is so hypocritical. But since it's the Asians that do it and it's okay to disparage Asians, their culture, etc, then it's okay to relentlessly attack them for making their kids study. I mean how dare they try to get ahead.

so black people are hypocrites because a deminimus percentage are exceptions athletes?

Do you think it's the majority of Asian kids that are prepped for TJ locally? The majority- nationwide?

Do you realize how diverse and large the Asian community is? Do you know there are, gasp, Asian kids with learning disabilities in this county too?

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Anonymous wrote:There are definitely areas where other races use what they have to their advantage to get a leg up- but no uproar from the masses and xenophobic statements made about them.

Rich white parents prep the hell out their kids with tutors and paying off college counselors.

Legacies overstep the regulars.

Sports scholarships and recruited athletes for some sports are nearly the majority one race. No one cries foul there.

Private sport coaches are used by the privileged and not so privileged to prep for intense competition, get on the right teams, get better recs on applications.

Private college counselors that know the right people in the right places give huge advantages to kids that may not cut it as a regular applicant.

Some people having lived here for generations, know how to navigate the ins and outs of schools, colleges, workplaces and they know someone that knows someone, that went to school with someone and thus get ahead that way.

Many Asian families do not have any of the above privleges afforded to them. What they do have is a culture that values top notch education.

This BS with white people and black people crying about prepping being unfair is so hypocritical. But since it's the Asians that do it and it's okay to disparage Asians, their culture, etc, then it's okay to relentlessly attack them for making their kids study. I mean how dare they try to get ahead.

so black people are hypocrites because a deminimus percentage are exceptions athletes?

Do you think it's the majority of Asian kids that are prepped for TJ locally? The majority- nationwide?

Do you realize how diverse and large the Asian community is? Do you know there are, gasp, Asian kids with learning disabilities in this county too?

What is so bad about prepping? If you can prep your kid, more power to you!!

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Why does everyone blame prepping for testing.
Why don't they blame prepping for sports.
Every sport is practiced and played. Same goes to education you prep and test.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone blame prepping for testing.
Why don't they blame prepping for sports.
Every sport is practiced and played. Same goes to education you prep and test.

That won’t do because whites and blacks benefit from forcing sports down the throats of their kids. As for Asians, they don’t mind screwing over.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone blame prepping for testing.
Why don't they blame prepping for sports.
Every sport is practiced and played. Same goes to education you prep and test.

That won’t do because whites and blacks benefit from forcing sports down the throats of their kids. As for Asians, they don’t mind screwing over.

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For whatever reason whites are able to take their kids for sports but cant make them study or go for extra math class. -
I wish people stop talking about URM on this website and focus on whites gaining from this admission change.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone blame prepping for testing.
Why don't they blame prepping for sports.
Every sport is practiced and played. Same goes to education you prep and test.

That won’t do because whites and blacks benefit from forcing sports down the throats of their kids. As for Asians, they don’t mind screwing over.

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For whatever reason whites are able to take their kids for sports but cant make them study or go for extra math class. -
I wish people stop talking about URM on this website and focus on whites gaining from this admission change.

+1 some white people redshirt to give their kids advantages, or push them to excel in sports so they seem more "well rounded" and more appealing to colleges, but Asians prepping.. that has no place in our society. LOL We should all just raise our children in vacuums with zero academic prepping, of course, "enrichment" to museums and what not does not count.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

Langley pyramid parent here. I know plenty of white parents hire tutors to help with homework and teach summer classes, etc. Two of the teachers they recommended to other parents work at a nearby elementary school.

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It's easier to blame Asians for cheating than to accept you yourself are just not intelligent or motivated. I'm a college professor and my asian students often get near perfects on my closed book exams while non-Asians sit around complaining and coming to my office hours to try to get extra points on their 80%. I often hear whispers of the asian students cheating but like, dude, it's closed book closed note, I have an extra proctor in the room and I just sit their staring at everyone while they take the exam (with a TA behind them). Racist complainers!

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

Some wealthy white parents pay between $200 to $400 per hour for in person private one on one tutoring or prepping.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

+1 by and large, Asian Americans don't have the social connections and network to get into those high paying jobs. They see education as the path to a better life. It's too bad more "real" Americans don't realize this.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

Some wealthy white parents pay between $200 to $400 per hour for in person private one on one tutoring or prepping.

I heard about that. Those tutors have PhDs, are lawyers and former lecturers and professors.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

Some wealthy white parents pay between $200 to $400 per hour for in person private one on one tutoring or prepping.

I heard about that. Those tutors have PhDs, are lawyers and former lecturers and professors.

My white colleague's kid went to Cooper. He told me that they need to address the private tutor they hired jointly with a few other families to prepare their kids for the TJ exam as Dr. XX because the tutor has a Ph.D.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly who cares? I had a friend tell me that doing puzzles and reading to my kids for 30 min a day was leaving poor families at a disadvantage. You can't win. Somehow "equality" seems to be bringing down the high achievers versus just making the pie larger for everyone. I see that with so much right now in society too.

As long as there's no cheating or abuse of the children (I knew a girl when I was in school whose parents would beat her and she studied all night and couldn't stay awake during school), prepping is great.

Pro-TJ reform here - what your friend told you is garbage. Those of us who are in favor of TJ reform don't have any issue with parents doing right by their kids. We have an issue with a system that incentivizes spending thousands of dollars and hours on exam prep. There are those who would conflate the two - those people are nuts.

Whites spend even more money on prepping because they pay for private tutors for test preps, classes etc. private tutors cost much more than in class tuitions so we should outlaw those first.

White person here. I've never known a white family in my entire life who paid for tutoring for their kids. This would be very uncommon in the white culture. I've known white families who sent their kids to Catholic schools for a better education.

This is because you do not live in Mclean, Great Falls, or Bethesda. I met many whites who sent their kids to some learning center to get good grades, to pass private school entrance exams, and to get better scores on the SAT. Some secretly hire expensive private tutors for their kids. The difference between Asians and Whites is that poor Asian parents still send their kids to the center to learn because they cannot teach them or help even them with homework due to their language barrier. I know one Asian family whose mother works for a school Cafeteria for insurance and whose father works part time for a construction company. Their kid went to the TJ prep and he got in. Asians believe that investment in education will create a huge impact in the future and will later prove to be worth it.

Some wealthy white parents pay between $200 to $400 per hour for in person private one on one tutoring or prepping.

I heard about that. Those tutors have PhDs, are lawyers and former lecturers and professors.

My white colleague's kid went to Cooper. He told me that they need to address the private tutor they hired jointly with a few other families to prepare their kids for the TJ exam as Dr. XX because the tutor has a Ph.D.

For white parents, cheating and bribing school officials and medical doctors are not enough. They have to pay $400 per hour for private tutors. That way, they can deny any prepping while pointing fingers at Asians.