Please don't talk to me about equity in schools ever again

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

NP. I don’t understand why you took such umbrage to that post. I’m educated, so I can somewhat teach my kids, but I’m not a trained teacher or familiar with pedagogy, so I probably won’t be as effective as a real teacher would be. PP’s comment makes sense to me.

Is it the SAH piece? It seems to reason that families with a SAHP, or parents with very flexible jobs, will have an easier time managing their children’s access to MCPS classes and/or providing their own learning opportunities.

You may not like the reality pointed out in the PP, but it seems logical and hardly something to get really upset about.

If you know these words and understand their meanings, I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to keep your child's brain from turning to mush.

That’s my point. That’s what the PP I first responded to said and I didn’t understand why some other poster took such offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine the poor kids who get abused at home. They'll have no respite this year.

uh rich kids also get abused at home...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

Rich people don’t need to make that choice

No one would need to make that choice if there were no Republicans running our government.

Other countries did the right thing: control the pandemic, support workers, support schools.

We didn’t, because one of our political parties is captured by billionaires who keep a corrupt president in office.

[Anonymous]

Point is:
This is a political issue. We can complain all we want about schools and local school boards. But the federal government is the only one that can fix this. If you care about rich kids getting school and others not, there is only one real solution: elect Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

Rich people don’t need to make that choice

This. Wealthy friends and colleagues forming pods with tutors at $500+ a week. No way I can afford that. Sure, I’ll supplement but it will get my kids nothing like what these families can give.

Basically MCPS is creating a private school-public school hybrid as most parents who can are going to bring tutors into the equation.

You do understand that plenty of kids already had tutors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This idea that in person school is dramatically better is baffling. Have any of you actually set foot in classrooms when school is in session? Ever noticed those kids who aren’t paying any attention, roaming the hallways, fighting, or sleeping? These are the same kids that are being left behind now. While the motivated kids are the same ones who will succeed now. DL is not the difference maker here.

Have you ever watched even a motivated early elementary school kid try to learn by DL? If so, you wouldn’t be so sanguine about DL.

My kids were in K and 3rd grade last spring, so yes, I watched. It’s why I’m choosing DL. The amount of time spent actually learning and not wasting time being distracted by other kids’ discipline issues, plus the ability for advanced groups to meet more often for small group, meant that my kids were able to learn more than ever before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

NP. I don’t understand why you took such umbrage to that post. I’m educated, so I can somewhat teach my kids, but I’m not a trained teacher or familiar with pedagogy, so I probably won’t be as effective as a real teacher would be. PP’s comment makes sense to me.

Is it the SAH piece? It seems to reason that families with a SAHP, or parents with very flexible jobs, will have an easier time managing their children’s access to MCPS classes and/or providing their own learning opportunities.

You may not like the reality pointed out in the PP, but it seems logical and hardly something to get really upset about.

"Educated" parents are hopefully resourceful, too. My kids learned more at home for many reasons, most of all because I continued supplementing as I have from the start. Some call it after-schooling. I call it filling the gaps. You get what you pay for and I can't swing private, but I am educated as well as resourceful.

+1. DL means that there is way more time to supplement, and there are so many free ways to do that now!

[Anonymous]

Drama Queen. Grow up. School is for education. You are looking for child care. A pod is child care. That's it. You really think all these MCPS teachers can take off in the middle of the day to babysit? They are doing a nanny share. Your kids are your child care issue. Figure it out.

[Anonymous]

My spouse who works full time has been supplementing and managing DL. Why can't you?

[Anonymous]

Okay, OP, I won't ever talk to you about equity in schools again.

[Anonymous]

My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This idea that in person school is dramatically better is baffling. Have any of you actually set foot in classrooms when school is in session? Ever noticed those kids who aren’t paying any attention, roaming the hallways, fighting, or sleeping? These are the same kids that are being left behind now. While the motivated kids are the same ones who will succeed now. DL is not the difference maker here.

Have you ever watched even a motivated early elementary school kid try to learn by DL? If so, you wouldn’t be so sanguine about DL.

My kids were in K and 3rd grade last spring, so yes, I watched. It’s why I’m choosing DL. The amount of time spent actually learning and not wasting time being distracted by other kids’ discipline issues, plus the ability for advanced groups to meet more often for small group, meant that my kids were able to learn more than ever before.

Were those small groups with or organized by your teacher? It was my understanding that wasn’t allowed per MCPS. Our 1st grade teacher was very dedicated and I am sure would have done what was permitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

DCUM's gonna DCUM. 1/3 of the kids in the PP's kid's class went AWOL last spring during "distance learning," and the PP's response is not "this is terrible, what can MCPS do so this doesn't happen again?" but rather "their parents are bad parents!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

DCUM's gonna DCUM. 1/3 of the kids in the PP's kid's class went AWOL last spring during "distance learning," and the PP's response is not "this is terrible, what can MCPS do so this doesn't happen again?" but rather "their parents are bad parents!"

Yes. You must no be a parent if you don’t know/understand the responsibilities of being a parent. One responsibility is to make sure your DC attends school/class whether it’s in-person or DL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

Agree - the OP is presenting a false choice.