One in Five Teachers Say They Won’t Return to School in the Fall

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Anonymous wrote:not very promising...

https://www.weareteachers.com/teachers-afraid-to-go-back/?utm_source=WAT_MDR&utm_medium=Enews&utm_campaign=WAT_Enews06112020

I have read many posters talking about there are no teacher shortages and that teachers would not resign.

Talk about uncertainty!

What could this really mean for our children?


There are plenty of new teachers graduating from their programs desperate for a job. What it means is we will have a less experienced staff, but also likely more optimistic and less cynical about the profession. It will cost the school system less. Some will be stars who were meant for this, others will be green as can be. Some of who we lose will be true seasoned gems and a huge loss, a small subset of who leaves will be teachers who don't belong in the profession anyway.


The vast majority of first year teachers are not that good. There is a huge learning curve and I would say true confidence and ability comes around year five. All of the superstar teachers I know sucked their first year and readily admit it .


I have a different experience. The young teachers right out of our excellent University program had the latest techniques for stimulation, classroom control, etc. They have been amazing. But we have a great local U program.


I am glad that university is preparing teachers well. I've worked in many different school settings and only a few first year teachers were good their first year. Many became good teachers over the years. To be fair I also worked in the type of schools where veteran staff took bets in August as to when each first year would quit and who would make it the full year.


There was a long thread here last year about a first year who quit. I don’t recall the details, but so many teachers chimes in about novices who walked off the job. We also see a lot of subs do that. They think it will be one thing and a small taste of reality horrifies them.
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You mean the teachers who didn’t teach anything the last three months? My DD’s 3Es grade teacher is in her late 50’s - there is no way she could teach full time remotely in a scenario where it actually counts.


This is such an ageist statement. I am in my late fifties and have easily mastered the DL technology. Many of my younger colleagues come to me for help. Please don't make statements like this; ageism is real and can be as economically devastating as other forms of discrimination.


I was simply stating the facts. The teacher IS in her late 50’s and DID do a terrible job with DL.


DP, younger than 50. You may not have meant to imply a correlation, but it comes across that way.

I'm 36 and I'm not great with the technology
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You mean the teachers who didn’t teach anything the last three months? My DD’s 3Es grade teacher is in her late 50’s - there is no way she could teach full time remotely in a scenario where it actually counts.


This is such an ageist statement. I am in my late fifties and have easily mastered the DL technology. Many of my younger colleagues come to me for help. Please don't make statements like this; ageism is real and can be as economically devastating as other forms of discrimination.


I was simply stating the facts. The teacher IS in her late 50’s and DID do a terrible job with DL.


DP, younger than 50. You may not have meant to imply a correlation, but it comes across that way.

I'm 36 and I'm not great with the technology


I’m 48 and better with technology than the teachers in their 30s at my school because I came from a techy corporate job and concentrated on instructional tech when I decided to switch to teaching.
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Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of teacher certification. Hire anyone with a college degree (after interview and teacher demo)


That sounds like a terrible idea.


It is a terrible idea, and one advanced by people who have no idea what teaching actually entails. But who cares? They just want their free babysitting back! Problem solved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of teacher certification. Hire anyone with a college degree (after interview and teacher demo)


That sounds like a terrible idea.


It is a terrible idea, and one advanced by people who have no idea what teaching actually entails. But who cares? They just want their free babysitting back! Problem solved.


+10000000000000000000000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You mean the teachers who didn’t teach anything the last three months? My DD’s 3Es grade teacher is in her late 50’s - there is no way she could teach full time remotely in a scenario where it actually counts.


This is such an ageist statement. I am in my late fifties and have easily mastered the DL technology. Many of my younger colleagues come to me for help. Please don't make statements like this; ageism is real and can be as economically devastating as other forms of discrimination.


I was simply stating the facts. The teacher IS in her late 50’s and DID do a terrible job with DL.


DP, younger than 50. You may not have meant to imply a correlation, but it comes across that way.

I'm 36 and I'm not great with the technology


I’m 48 and better with technology than the teachers in their 30s at my school because I came from a techy corporate job and concentrated on instructional tech when I decided to switch to teaching.


It is funny (not) that so many people think that age determines tech ability. I'm 50+ and the tech staff in my building come to me with questions about apps and software. I have no tech background, I just use a lot of technology in my classroom. I am better with the apps and software. My downfall is the hardware - all the cords and crap get the best of me. But you need advice on an app or software, I'm your gal!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of teacher certification. Hire anyone with a college degree (after interview and teacher demo)


That sounds like a terrible idea.


It is a terrible idea, and one advanced by people who have no idea what teaching actually entails. But who cares? They just want their free babysitting back! Problem solved.


It's not free. We pay taxes. Where do you think your salary comes from?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of teacher certification. Hire anyone with a college degree (after interview and teacher demo)


That sounds like a terrible idea.


It is a terrible idea, and one advanced by people who have no idea what teaching actually entails. But who cares? They just want their free babysitting back! Problem solved.


It's not free. We pay taxes. Where do you think your salary comes from?


You are one of those parents, aren’t you?

(NP and not a teacher)
Anonymous
Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need to get rid of teacher certification. Hire anyone with a college degree (after interview and teacher demo)


That sounds like a terrible idea.


It is a terrible idea, and one advanced by people who have no idea what teaching actually entails. But who cares? They just want their free babysitting back! Problem solved.


It's not free. We pay taxes. Where do you think your salary comes from?


You are one of those parents, aren’t you?

(NP and not a teacher)


+1

Haha what percent of your taxes go to education? And what percent do you think goes to my salary? If you send me your address I'll send you the nickel you give to my salary. The level of entitlement never amazes me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.


NP here. Correct. And if you are still receive your salary during the pandemic, you are still expected to educate during the pandemic. Not just send video links and links to quizizz.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.


NP here. Correct. And if you are still receive your salary during the pandemic, you are still expected to educate during the pandemic. Not just send video links and links to quizizz.

Dont worry. PWCS included a furlough clause in the teacher contracts saying if this happens again, teachers may be furloughed and/or if their workload decreases, so will their pay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.


NP here. Correct. And if you are still receive your salary during the pandemic, you are still expected to educate during the pandemic. Not just send video links and links to quizizz.

I didn’t do that this past semester either, but thanks for telling me how to do my job. You seem really bitter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.


NP here. Correct. And if you are still receive your salary during the pandemic, you are still expected to educate during the pandemic. Not just send video links and links to quizizz.

I didn’t do that this past semester either, but thanks for telling me how to do my job. You seem really bitter.


Again, for the folks in the way back, some teachers actually DID do this, or even less. Why is it so hard for you to accept that some of our kids were really really short-changed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that teachers also pay taxes! You’re not special and we don’t owe you babysitting. Our job is to educate, not to free up YOUR time.


NP here. Correct. And if you are still receive your salary during the pandemic, you are still expected to educate during the pandemic. Not just send video links and links to quizizz.

Dont worry. PWCS included a furlough clause in the teacher contracts saying if this happens again, teachers may be furloughed and/or if their workload decreases, so will their pay.



LoL let’s see how many return. Fck pwcs
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