Churchill students

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's a poster lamenting their 400K income because they just can't afford a decent house to fit their needs. But apparently those of us making 250K are skiing in Colorado, buying houses on the Cape, and making the lives of kids in Scotland miserable in our spare time.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/887819.page


People with a 400,000 household income are affluent. People with a 250,000 household income are also affluent. It's true that, at least going by what I read on DCUM, there are people who live all over the DC area who don't understand these two facts. It's not limited to people who live in the current Churchill HS boundaries.
Anonymous
So many making judgments, and most probably don't live in the Churchill cluster or have any children at Churchill.

It's a lovely school, like at most HSs, there are good teachers and bad, laid-back families and uptight, it will have some wealthy and some not so wealthy (and maybe this is unusual, some extremely wealthy), and your children will make friends from many different ethnicities, learn tons, have an occasional bad day, and mostly many good ones.

While some are thrilled to have a new principal because they didn't like the old one, our family is the opposite. We loved the old principal, and think the new one is a Barbie doll, with not much going on upstairs. She does like to cheer for her "dawgs" though...
Anonymous
There are a few pockets of wealth in Churchill, but it's not like the private schools. Churchill is still a public school.

Most of the people in Churchill are upper middle class.

That's people who make between $100k and $350k.

https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/family-finance/articles/where-do-i-fall-in-the-american-economic-class-system

They can afford some nice things, but if you saw them walking around a mall you wouldn't tell the difference.

The kids for the most part still work hard, but like any high school there's going to be a range.

You don't have to worry about your kids being surrounded by Paris Hilton types.
Anonymous
OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


You will not find a 1 acre lot in Churchill cluster commutable to DC with for $1.3M unless it is a tear down or needs a lot of work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


You will not find a 1 acre lot in Churchill cluster commutable to DC with for $1.3M unless it is a tear down or needs a lot of work.


But hey, regular people!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


I agree with OP. If you don't have kids at Churchill or ever had kids at Churchill, you should keep your uninformed opinions to themselves. My youngest one graduated from Churchill last spring. Yes, there are many entitled kids, but there are also many kids that are not. Take a drive around the neighborhoods surrounding Churchill. I would hardly call that Beverly Hills. Yes, those houses cost more than the exactly same house in other parts of the county, but that's because of two things: location not horrendously far from DC and the reputation of the school. Period.

We live in one of the less affluent neighborhoods (I know that is all relative) and my neighbors have generally been very down to earth people with two incomes and not jetting off on multiple luxury vacations each year. We certainly don't do that either.

In terms of teachers, there are excellent teachers and there are very poor teachers at Churchill who need to find another career and not wait out their time and inflict their less than stellar teaching skills on students until they can collect their pension from MCPS. A lot of what makes a "highly regarded school" is parental involvement and the importance parents put on education. Sorry, but that's just the truth and it doesn't matter if you live in Potomac, Silver Spring or Wheaton.

In terms of the new principal, she may not be perfect, but she is a breath of fresh air compared to the last one who was significantly overdue for retirement. My kids used to laugh that she would stand in the Bulldog lobby in the morning trying to "pretend" she knew the students, but couldn't name any of them (well maybe a handful). By the time she retired, she was completely disconnected from the student body. I also felt that her ineffectiveness allowed teachers to have little accountability for their actions.

Someone earlier dug up an article about an incident that happened like 10 years ago. Seriously, it has no bearing on the school environment today.

Are there schools with more diversity both economically and racially in MCPS? Of course there are, but don't write off Churchill because people who know nothing about the school or the community except their preconceived notions or a few encounters with people. There is a group for everyone. Did I hang out with the pretentious "wannabe" rich people? Nope, but I found plenty of other people and so did my kids.

Last thing, I grew up in Silver Spring and went all the way through MCPS so I'm no transplant to the area.
Anonymous
Thank you, that is really helpful and just the type of insight I was looking for.

I don't frequent this site and now I remember why. Signing off!
Anonymous
Churchill is one of the segregated schools with a well-documented pattern of racist incidents. The sooner the county diversifies these boundaries the better.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/784059.page
Anonymous
Beverly hills 90210 was really about Churchill HS. When I was in HS, my Churchill friends would show up at games super drunk. Noone would do that at mine. Just to give you an idea....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


You will not find a 1 acre lot in Churchill cluster commutable to DC with for $1.3M unless it is a tear down or needs a lot of work.



Sure, you can just depends on what you care to prioritize:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Potomac/1-Stoney-Creek-Way-20854/home/10614190
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


You will not find a 1 acre lot in Churchill cluster commutable to DC with for $1.3M unless it is a tear down or needs a lot of work.

Wrong, not all neighborhoods in the Churchill district are the same. In fact, most probably fit that description.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Churchill is one of the segregated schools with a well-documented pattern of racist incidents. The sooner the county diversifies these boundaries the better.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/784059.page


Actually, the only reason those incidents make the news is because a mom of one of the students works for a news publication and as soon as she hears something from her kids or the principal send out an email she passes it on to the news staff and it is posted on that news organizations twitter feed. Sadly, incidents like these happen at a lot of school. They just don't get as widely publicized.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the input from those who have first-hand experience. I should have known that this had the potential to devolve into ugly commentary about what constitutes wealth, but those without experience relevant to my question - can you take it elsewhere?!

We're early in our search and just trying to figure out where to focus. Looking for bigger lot (~1+ acre) and about $1-1.3m budget, which is why that area is appealing. Commutable to DC but only need to go in about 1-2x week.


You will not find a 1 acre lot in Churchill cluster commutable to DC with for $1.3M unless it is a tear down or needs a lot of work.


Sure, you can just depends on what you care to prioritize:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Potomac/1-Stoney-Creek-Way-20854/home/10614190


That's $1.4 million. Also, on the market for 29 days - what's wrong with it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Churchill is one of the segregated schools with a well-documented pattern of racist incidents. The sooner the county diversifies these boundaries the better.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/784059.page


Actually, the only reason those incidents make the news is because a mom of one of the students works for a news publication and as soon as she hears something from her kids or the principal send out an email she passes it on to the news staff and it is posted on that news organizations twitter feed. Sadly, incidents like these happen at a lot of school. They just don't get as widely publicized.


That and people like to take particular delight any time something bad happens at a school like Churchill because, as this thread demonstrates, there are lots of people who like to tear it down. When the same or worse things happen at other schools, these same people don't care because they can't rejoice in taking a crack at "rich" people.
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