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So what do you suggest that families with the means to buy $800k+ homes do when making a house purchasing decision ? Should they all choose the Northwest HS cluster in Germantown because it has the perfect racial diversity and ignore all other factors like commute? Should they choose the Kennedy HS neighborhood, a school that is not diverse, so that they can intentionally help increase it's white or Asian population while ignoring all other factors like HS graduation rates, etc?

There are plenty of high schools in MCPS that are less segregated than either Churchill or Kennedy.

^^^and $800,000 homes are available in all of those high schools' current boundaries.

Do you really think that should be the, or even a major, factor when people decide where to live? That’s crazy. I’m not going to plan my life based on what schools is most diverse at the moment I buy.

I’m going to look at commute to work. I’m going to look at distance to church or other community activity important to me. I’m going to look at places near to other amenities I want. To the extent I am looking a schools, I’m going to look where I think my kids will get a good education, which may or may not be the most diverse (as you define diversity) school.

It's not like the demographics of the high schools change radically from one year to the next...

You may make whatever choices you want, for whatever reasons you want. All we're saying is that people don't just "happen" to buy expensive housing in areas assigned to segregated schools. It's a feature, not a bug. The schools are "good" because there are few students from poor families in them. And the housing is expensive because the schools are "good" because there are few students from poor families in them. Own your housing decisions.

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So what do you suggest that families with the means to buy $800k+ homes do when making a house purchasing decision ? Should they all choose the Northwest HS cluster in Germantown because it has the perfect racial diversity and ignore all other factors like commute? Should they choose the Kennedy HS neighborhood, a school that is not diverse, so that they can intentionally help increase it's white or Asian population while ignoring all other factors like HS graduation rates, etc?

There are plenty of high schools in MCPS that are less segregated than either Churchill or Kennedy.

^^^and $800,000 homes are available in all of those high schools' current boundaries.

Do you really think that should be the, or even a major, factor when people decide where to live? That’s crazy. I’m not going to plan my life based on what schools is most diverse at the moment I buy.

I’m going to look at commute to work. I’m going to look at distance to church or other community activity important to me. I’m going to look at places near to other amenities I want. To the extent I am looking a schools, I’m going to look where I think my kids will get a good education, which may or may not be the most diverse (as you define diversity) school.

It's not like the demographics of the high schools change radically from one year to the next...

You may make whatever choices you want, for whatever reasons you want. All we're saying is that people don't just "happen" to buy expensive housing in areas assigned to segregated schools. It's a feature, not a bug. The schools are "good" because there are few students from poor families in them. And the housing is expensive because the schools are "good" because there are few students from poor families in them. Own your housing decisions.

I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

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I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

Evidently so.

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I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

Evidently so.

I made the decision to purchase a home in Clarksburg for its diverse schools and it backfired. 2 years later, MCPS decided to reassign our home to schools that are not diverse.

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I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

Evidently so.

I made the decision to purchase a home in Clarksburg for its diverse schools and it backfired. 2 years later, MCPS decided to reassign our home to schools that are not diverse.

This is factually incorrect. Neelsville MS and Seneca Valley HS are both diverse and will continue to be diverse after the boundary changes.

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I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

Evidently so.

I made the decision to purchase a home in Clarksburg for its diverse schools and it backfired. 2 years later, MCPS decided to reassign our home to schools that are not diverse.

This is factually incorrect. Neelsville MS and Seneca Valley HS are both diverse and will continue to be diverse after the boundary changes.

No they are not. Look at the data. The only school that maintained its diversity in the study is Northwest HS.

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I am owning it and I am saying that finding a diverse, again as you define it, school is low on my list of priorities.

Evidently so.

I made the decision to purchase a home in Clarksburg for its diverse schools and it backfired. 2 years later, MCPS decided to reassign our home to schools that are not diverse.

This is factually incorrect. Neelsville MS and Seneca Valley HS are both diverse and will continue to be diverse after the boundary changes.

No they are not. Look at the data. The only school that maintained its diversity in the study is Northwest HS.

Yes they are, yes they will be, I know this because I have looked at the data.

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DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

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DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

Dr. Benz is a hero that kept Churchill from devolving into Einstein.
Guess which neighborhood all the drugs and violence came from?

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Einstein. The horror! The horror!

[Anonymous]

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DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

Dr. Benz is a hero that kept Churchill from devolving into Einstein.
Guess which neighborhood all the drugs and violence came from?

A hero??
The woman is a blatant racist, and she doesn't really dispute that fact, does she?

Good to know where you stand... white is right, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

Dr. Benz is a hero that kept Churchill from devolving into Einstein.
Guess which neighborhood all the drugs and violence came from?

A hero??
The woman is a blatant racist, and she doesn't really dispute that fact, does she?

Good to know where you stand... white is right, huh?

She's not even there anymore. The PP is obviously a troll. And you can't blame Churchill for Benz - plenty of parents wanted her gone and MCPS let her stay. You need to be looking at MCPS and their policies regarding their administration and leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

Dr. Benz is a hero that kept Churchill from devolving into Einstein.
Guess which neighborhood all the drugs and violence came from?

A hero??
The woman is a blatant racist, and she doesn't really dispute that fact, does she?

Good to know where you stand... white is right, huh?

She's not even there anymore. The PP is obviously a troll. And you can't blame Churchill for Benz - plenty of parents wanted her gone and MCPS let her stay. You need to be looking at MCPS and their policies regarding their administration and leadership.

OMG...agree 100%. We could not figure out why she was permitted to remain at the school. I witnessed a completely inappropriate interaction she had with a parent at a large parent meeting in the auditorium. Believe me, there were many parents who wanted her gone. That was on MCPS administration.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. Of course it is. OP is presumably worried about being surrounded by kids who expect to jet to Europe twice a year, be given a Benz at 17, etc.

Folks living in an $800k house in Potomac aren’t doing that or anything close. They likely live comfortable lives with the occasional modest luxury, but nothing extravagant. It could easily be a two Fed family or other people with good, but not incredibly high earning jobs.

If I had a nickel for every time I've read a post like this on DCUM, I'd have a lot of nickels but still wouldn't be able to afford a $800,000 house in Potomac.

and then you hear about them complaining about those horrible kids in Scotland.

It's so funny to have them come on here and just out themselves, like nobody needs to do it for them.

And the irony is, YOU are the one who came here and brought up those kids... well well well.

No, I'm a DP, and I'm the one who mentioned Scotland. I mentioned Scotland because it's part of Montgomery County history, and because it's relevant to Churchill. I'm going to repost this link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2007/01/14/the-scotland-of-the-doves-span-classbankheadthis-neighborhoods-roots-too-deep-to-be-put-downspan/17b2f8b0-79e6-45c0-ac0c-b137446c0f5a/

So when the fight happened at Winston Churchill High School recently and four Scotland students were charged with assault, and Principal Joan C. Benz sent out a letter saying, "Every incident revolving around this two-month ordeal has been Black-on-Black violence," residents in the neighborhood just off Seven Locks Road knew she was talking about their community.

And the need arose once again, as in the pre-integration days, to explain why the children of Scotland deserved to attend Churchill, to sit beside the children from much wealthier parts of Potomac.

"There is a stigma on Scotland. . . . They see Scotland as a place of danger, a place they can stay away from," says the Rev. James Phifer, pastor of Scotland AME Zion Church, which was built in the community 101 years ago. "And all of that is hogwash."

So what is it like to live in a place that people use careful language to describe?

Code words. Veiled language. Words that are less distasteful, less offensive, used to say one thing but imply another. "They came from Scotland."

What does it really mean when a fight is broadened to describe the neighborhood from which the teenagers came?

"The problem is, we understand the code because she is putting Scotland down," resident Craig Dove says, referring to Benz. "What I picked up is that it is a clear sign saying they don't want our kids at that school. They are already stereotyped for being from here."

"They label Scotland kids different," says Cynthia Polite, whose son was involved in the fight. Polite says the principal has told her that she wants her son transferred. "That lady at that school, that lady is trying to get Scotland kids out of there."

Dr. Joan Benz is a moron and should have been fired YEARS ago. I'm not sure what it took to make the administration get off their asses and finally fire her, I'm just glad they did.

She's 80 years old and still has segregation way of thinking.

Dr. Benz is a hero that kept Churchill from devolving into Einstein.
Guess which neighborhood all the drugs and violence came from?

A hero??
The woman is a blatant racist, and she doesn't really dispute that fact, does she?

Good to know where you stand... white is right, huh?

She's not even there anymore. The PP is obviously a troll. And you can't blame Churchill for Benz - plenty of parents wanted her gone and MCPS let her stay. You need to be looking at MCPS and their policies regarding their administration and leadership.

OMG...agree 100%. We could not figure out why she was permitted to remain at the school. I witnessed a completely inappropriate interaction she had with a parent at a large parent meeting in the auditorium. Believe me, there were many parents who wanted her gone. That was on MCPS administration.

+1 Many wanted her gone. Her handling of the student suicides in the last few years was terrible. She had no clue what was going on at that school.

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sure, keep complaining about a principal who hasn't been there for 2 years. Or, be like Elsa and Let. It. Go.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks mcps can solve poverty. They can't.