Cornell Test Optional This Year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Very good. If they weren’t, why would people risk prison time to get into them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Your writing skills are atrocious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Your writing skills are atrocious.

This is an anonymous DCUM board, not the College Board to get into Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Wake Forest??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Wake Forest??

Per USNews:

17. Cornell
17. Rice
19. WashU
20. UCLA
21. Emory
22. UCBerkeley
22. USC
24. Georgetown
25. CMU
25. UMich
27. Wake Forest

[Anonymous]

Shout-out to the person who posted this comment back on April 1, in response to UCs suspending the SAT requirement:

When an Ivy does this call us.

Um...can you send me your number anonymous poster?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/870278.page#16847131

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shout-out to the person who posted this comment back on April 1, in response to UCs suspending the SAT requirement:

When an Ivy does this call us.

Um...can you send me your number anonymous poster?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/870278.page#16847131

For test option schools, what will they consider? GPA and what else if not the test scores? FAFSA Expected Family Contribution? It’s scary given many colleges’ financial bind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For test option schools, what will they consider? GPA and what else if not the test scores? FAFSA Expected Family Contribution? It’s scary given many colleges’ financial bind.

From the link in the second post in this thread, "I would encourage people to read Cornell's statement carefully. https://admissions.cornell.edu/news/cornell-univer...ng-requirement-2021-applicants" see especially:

For those who can’t plan for, take, and submit exams

Cornell readers will consider with increased scrutiny their other application documents, looking for different evidence of excellent academic preparation, including:

challenging courses and excellent grades in each secondary school (high school) context. Note: there will be no negative interpretation for schools and students who have had only pass/fail or similar grading options during this current term;
evidence of commitment and effort to pursuing other challenging learning experiences;
results from other kinds of secondary, college-preparatory, and university-qualifying testing where available and verifiable;
care, craft, and authenticity in their writing submissions;
and wherever practical and available, details, insight, and analysis from secondary school counselors and teachers.
Applicants with no test results might more often be asked after review has begun for additional evidence of continuing preparation, including grade reports from current senior year enrollment when that can be made available in time for Cornell admission review.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will all go "test optional" but none of them will mean it if you aren't an athlete, URM, donor or first generation college student.

I think you just need to be full pay. Someone has to make up for the revenue from international students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Your writing skills are atrocious.

This is an anonymous DCUM board, not the College Board to get into Cornell.

Sure, but you still present as an imbecile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Your writing skills are atrocious.

This is an anonymous DCUM board, not the College Board to get into Cornell.

Sure, but you still present as an imbecile.

That’s not gonna change who Cormel’s peers are.

[Anonymous]

"You can apply without a test score, but you won’t get in. It’s a win/win for schools. They look flexible, and they benefit from
increased application numbers from kids who believe that they actually have a chance to get into an Ivy without an SAT score. Cornell takes in more money from application fees and can tout increased applications along with a lower admission rate. It’s a no brainer for them. Regardless of what schools are saying, get an SAT or ACT score for your Junior the moment things open up."

"My two cents: I suspect the effect of not submitting would be substantially different, much more understandable, if there is no in-person testing this fall. If there is in-person testing, I think scores will be expected from all but disadvantaged applicants. That was the sense I got from Cornell's statement."

I agree with the two statements above.

If you are from an upper middle class family and attend a fairly affluent public school or a private school in the DC area, these new test optional policies are probably going to be little more than traps for the unwary. The new policies will help colleges weed out applicants who could have studied for and taken the standardized tests but didn't bother to or who actually took them but didn't report lower than desired scores. If you truly face difficult circumstances and can document them in your application, highly selective colleges like Cornell, Amherst and Pomona will now have the flexibility to let you in without a test score. But otherwise, you'll probably need a test score (or some other "hook," like being a college caliber point guard.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"You can apply without a test score, but you won’t get in. It’s a win/win for schools. They look flexible, and they benefit from
increased application numbers from kids who believe that they actually have a chance to get into an Ivy without an SAT score. Cornell takes in more money from application fees and can tout increased applications along with a lower admission rate. It’s a no brainer for them. Regardless of what schools are saying, get an SAT or ACT score for your Junior the moment things open up."

"My two cents: I suspect the effect of not submitting would be substantially different, much more understandable, if there is no in-person testing this fall. If there is in-person testing, I think scores will be expected from all but disadvantaged applicants. That was the sense I got from Cornell's statement."

I agree with the two statements above.

If you are from an upper middle class family and attend a fairly affluent public school or a private school in the DC area, these new test optional policies are probably going to be little more than traps for the unwary. The new policies will help colleges weed out applicants who could have studied for and taken the standardized tests but didn't bother to or who actually took them but didn't report lower than desired scores. If you truly face difficult circumstances and can document them in your application, highly selective colleges like Cornell, Amherst and Pomona will now have the flexibility to let you in without a test score. But otherwise, you'll probably need a test score (or some other "hook," like being a college caliber point guard.

"

Why would you say you won't get in? It gives the school more flexibility. They can accept someone who probably didn't have good stats, but still report good stats to USNWR and other rankings that use it. They've already been taking kids with high standardized tests but who probably aren't in top 10% from schools that do not rank. This helps standardized test scores and doesn't hurt in the "top 10%" part of the ranking because the there is technically no ranking to report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.

Cornell is not in the same league with Stanford. It’s in a class with Notre Dame, Vandy, Emory, USC, Wake Forest. These are all fine schools so let’s not denigrate them. How good of schools are they when parents were risking 50+ years of prison tine to get their kids into this cluster of schools?

Wake Forest??

Per USNews:

17. Cornell
17. Rice
19. WashU
20. UCLA
21. Emory
22. UCBerkeley
22. USC
24. Georgetown
25. CMU
25. UMich
27. Wake Forest

personally I think a tier list is 5 above and 5 below so 13-17 and 17-22 are Cornell's peers. I don't know who is ranked 13.