Cornell Test Optional This Year

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

[Anonymous]

They will all go "test optional" but none of them will mean it if you aren't an athlete, URM, donor or first generation college student.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

You might want to go and check the gold standard and see where Cornell falls. It’ll tell you who its domestic peers are.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

You might want to go and check the gold standard and see where Cornell falls. It’ll tell you who its domestic peers are.

USNEWS is a joke with the silly ranking criteria they use (e.g. number of pell grant recipients). It is the last ranking system I would look at.

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They are offering SAT in September.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering SAT in September.

Maybe. No one knows what will happen in September.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

You might want to go and check the gold standard and see where Cornell falls. It’ll tell you who its domestic peers are.

USNEWS is a joke with the silly ranking criteria they use (e.g. number of pell grant recipients). It is the last ranking system I would look at.

You wouldn’t consider the gold standard in the ranking game because your kid’s college is right in there with other second-tier unis?

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

You might want to go and check the gold standard and see where Cornell falls. It’ll tell you who its domestic peers are.

USNEWS is a joke with the silly ranking criteria they use (e.g. number of pell grant recipients). It is the last ranking system I would look at.

You wouldn’t consider the gold standard in the ranking game because your kid’s college is right in there with other second-tier unis?

NP here. Cornell is #17 in USN. Hardly second tier, unless your tiers are very, very small.

Also, being the "gold standard" of uniform college rankings - something that is highly reliant on subjective data points - is not really a high bar.

Most importantly, Cornell does not need me, or anyone else, to white-knight it.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

Because USNews does not rank non-US universities.

You might want to go and check the gold standard and see where Cornell falls. It’ll tell you who its domestic peers are.

USNEWS is a joke with the silly ranking criteria they use (e.g. number of pell grant recipients). It is the last ranking system I would look at.

You wouldn’t consider the gold standard in the ranking game because your kid’s college is right in there with other second-tier unis?

NP here. Cornell is #17 in USN. Hardly second tier, unless your tiers are very, very small.

Also, being the "gold standard" of uniform college rankings - something that is highly reliant on subjective data points - is not really a high bar.

Most importantly, Cornell does not need me, or anyone else, to white-knight it.

Cornell belongs to a great cluster. People were willing to go to jail for some of these schools. They are all fine schools.

15. U of Norte Dame
15. Vanderbilt
17. Cornell
17. Rice
19. WashU
20. UCLA
21. Emory
22. UCBerkeley
22. USC
24. Georgetown
25. CMU
25. UMich
27. Wake Forest
28. U of Virginia

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Notre Dame, and Vandy already past them in the ranking, Rice, WashU and Emory next.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame, and Vandy already past them in the ranking, Rice, WashU and Emory next.

I'm sorry you were not accepted to Cornell. Please go back to you on-line classes and good luck with the waitlist.

[Anonymous]

Cornell alum here--I thought this thread would be about the elimination of the Cornell Swim Test!

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell alum here--I thought this thread would be about the elimination of the Cornell Swim Test!

It is. But we are reading between the lines. Cornell also will no longer report their 10%+ acceptance rate during the season cycle.
Wonder why?

https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/27/cornell-to-no-longer-report-acceptance-rate-during-admissions-cycle/

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell alum here--I thought this thread would be about the elimination of the Cornell Swim Test!

It is. But we are reading between the lines. Cornell also will no longer report their 10%+ acceptance rate during the season cycle.
Wonder why?

https://cornellsun.com/2020/03/27/cornell-to-no-longer-report-acceptance-rate-during-admissions-cycle/

The article says why if you read it. It is the same reason that Stanford enacted the same policy (with a 5% admission rate).

https://news.stanford.edu/2018/08/30/stanford-will-no-longer-announce-undergraduate-application-numbers/

[Anonymous]

And as with Stanford, the acceptance rate will be available much later, in the Common Data Set.