Cornell Test Optional This Year

[Anonymous]

Nice letter from Cornell. Relief for some kids but I bet if you are applying for the Engineering school, you will be much better off if you can submit test scores

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

Are you 12?

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

Are you 12?

I am saying it’s going to be a new world. Post-COVID 19 will never be the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people who are serious about applying to T20 schools would have taken something already. I know people may have waited til March, but they will be first in line for whatever the college board and ACT have planned for Late summer and fall. Colleges could add self-reported PSAT scores to what they consider since everyone would have that done.

My kid who is a freshman at at T3 school took her first ACT in April. Her sister, a junior, was following the same schedule. She is currently without at score. If an opportunity becomes available, she will take the ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

That’s kind of like predicting who is gonna win the next World Cup in soccer by looking at the FIFA ranking. Who ever currently ranks #1 wins it all, right? And FIFA#2 and #3 obviously win silver and bronze. Why bother with the tournament after the ranking game has spoken?

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

That’s kind of like predicting who is gonna win the next World Cup in soccer by looking at the FIFA ranking. Who ever currently ranks #1 wins it all, right? And FIFA#2 and #3 obviously win silver and bronze. Why bother with the tournament after the ranking game has spoken?

Ridiculous... you can say the same thing about any university and where it currently ranks. The point is that Cornell is very near the top when compared to universities around the world. Some well-regarded universities in the US are ranked deep into the "2d tier" in worldwide rankings (i.e. Brown, Dartmouth) an issue which Cornell does not face.

[Anonymous]

You can apply without a test score, but you won’t get in. It’s a win/win for schools. They look flexible, and they benefit from
increased application numbers from kids who believe that they actually have a chance to get into an Ivy without an SAT score. Cornell takes in more money from application fees and can tout increased applications along with a lower admission rate. It’s a no brainer for them. Regardless of what schools are saying, get an SAT or ACT score for your Junior the moment things open up.

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Anonymous wrote:You can apply without a test score, but you won’t get in. It’s a win/win for schools. They look flexible, and they benefit from
increased application numbers from kids who believe that they actually have a chance to get into an Ivy without an SAT score. Cornell takes in more money from application fees and can tout increased applications along with a lower admission rate. It’s a no brainer for them. Regardless of what schools are saying, get an SAT or ACT score for your Junior the moment things open up.

There may not be another in person SAT/ACT this year and who knows if an online version will work. I'd hate to think my kid is totally screwed because he signed up for the April ACT instead of the February one.

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Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

A 10% acceptance rate? Wow, they suck.

No one said they did. But, for myriad reasons, no college likes to report that their app numbers are down and acceptance rates up.

However, I disagree with PP about the reference to 2nd tier national universities - not only is that not going to happen, but I also would never refer to those schools (just guessing what relative ranking PP is referring to) as "2nd tier."

Don’t worry about Cornell becoming a 2nd tier national university in the future. It’s already there.

You are clueless. Cornell is moving closer than ever towards the top of global universities.

Cornell ranked 14th in world rankings (7th among US unis). https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2020

Cornell ranked 11th among US unis by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/#297e1e4e1987

Cornell ranked 19th in world rankings (14th among US unis). https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Just curious why you left out the gold standard in the ranking game, USNews. How’s it doing in USNews? And just who are Cornell’s peers there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Cornell goes test optional to admit more, they’ll be going from their current status as soft ivy with 10%+ acceptance rate to mid-to-bottom 2nd tier national universities.

Harvard, Yale, Columbia can get away with it. Not Cornell.

You’re an imbecile.

[Anonymous]

Ok. Enough said. Who is the next select school to go test optional?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There may not be another in person SAT/ACT this year and who knows if an online version will work. I'd hate to think my kid is totally screwed because he signed up for the April ACT instead of the February one.

(not PP) My two cents: I suspect the effect of not submitting would be substantially different, much more understandable, if there is no in-person testing this fall. If there is in-person testing, I think scores will be expected from all but disadvantaged applicants. That was the sense I got from Cornell's statement.

[Anonymous]

Great and I expect that some kid is planning on how to game the online test too.

[Anonymous]

I expect people may need to sign up immediately and be willing to travel many miles if/when the August - December test dates open up. I hope the tests happen and that many additional sites/spots can be added.