AP Panic - what's going on with elimination of Ap's at Elite Privates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/10/course-rigor-and-curriculum-strength.html

There's a whole section about APs in this blog.

Plenty of people want to know how many AP courses a student should take to be competitive in our process. We don't approach applications this way. First of all, not everyone goes to a school with APs as an option.

They also know when you're avoiding the perfectly excellent public schools that do have AP options and instead you're choosing a school that doesn't have it. They would also expect that if the coursework is more vigorous than public school AP classes, then the student should have no problem taking the AP exam to prove their knowledge. Paying $$$$ for private school shows you're not so poor that the exam is unaffordable.

[Anonymous]

PP makes a good point but is reading too much in to what the earlier poster said. Yes, it is entirely rational to take AP's when that is all that is offered. No, that does not mean they are a good thing. I think the privates that had tossed out the AP's made a good choice but would still suggest DC take them if they were offered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/10/course-rigor-and-curriculum-strength.html

There's a whole section about APs in this blog.

Plenty of people want to know how many AP courses a student should take to be competitive in our process. We don't approach applications this way. First of all, not everyone goes to a school with APs as an option.

They also know when you're avoiding the perfectly excellent public schools that do have AP options and instead you're choosing a school that doesn't have it. They would also expect that if the coursework is more vigorous than public school AP classes, then the student should have no problem taking the AP exam to prove their knowledge. Paying $$$$ for private school shows you're not so poor that the exam is unaffordable.

We didn't avoid public school, we chose private HS after public elementary & middle schools. The private school we chose had AP classes up until this year, when they basically just renamed them to "Advanced". The kids are still going to take the AP exams in May. My kid is heading to one of the HYP schools in the fall unhooked, so the school obviously didn't have any issues with the lack of "AP" classes on the transcript.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/10/course-rigor-and-curriculum-strength.html

There's a whole section about APs in this blog.

Plenty of people want to know how many AP courses a student should take to be competitive in our process. We don't approach applications this way. First of all, not everyone goes to a school with APs as an option.

They also know when you're avoiding the perfectly excellent public schools that do have AP options and instead you're choosing a school that doesn't have it. They would also expect that if the coursework is more vigorous than public school AP classes, then the student should have no problem taking the AP exam to prove their knowledge. Paying $$$$ for private school shows you're not so poor that the exam is unaffordable.

We didn't avoid public school, we chose private HS after public elementary & middle schools. The private school we chose had AP classes up until this year, when they basically just renamed them to "Advanced". The kids are still going to take the AP exams in May. My kid is heading to one of the HYP schools in the fall unhooked, so the school obviously didn't have any issues with the lack of "AP" classes on the transcript.

No hooks besides full pay and private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people have actually bought into the global testing scam that is the APs to the point where they are defending it. Has varsity blues taught you nothing? It is a corrupt system and a lot of colleges are moving away from it on their own, so the private schools are following suit.

I like your tinfoil hat, but what would you have public school parents do? AP’s or IB’s are what’s on offer, and if you don’t take a challenging course load you have zero chance of getting into a T20 uni or LAC. So great, it’s corrupt. Do you expect me to just sell my house and move to a non-AP school state? Take regular classes with the burnouts and phone-starers?

Okay, you should take off. Time to go lay in some more toilet paper and cheese for your bunker.

Yet children all over the world get into T20 uni or LAc without AP classes.

You might want tonged some SSRZi’s got your delusions and anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/10/course-rigor-and-curriculum-strength.html

There's a whole section about APs in this blog.

Plenty of people want to know how many AP courses a student should take to be competitive in our process. We don't approach applications this way. First of all, not everyone goes to a school with APs as an option.

They also know when you're avoiding the perfectly excellent public schools that do have AP options and instead you're choosing a school that doesn't have it. They would also expect that if the coursework is more vigorous than public school AP classes, then the student should have no problem taking the AP exam to prove their knowledge. Paying $$$$ for private school shows you're not so poor that the exam is unaffordable.

We didn't avoid public school, we chose private HS after public elementary & middle schools. The private school we chose had AP classes up until this year, when they basically just renamed them to "Advanced". The kids are still going to take the AP exams in May. My kid is heading to one of the HYP schools in the fall unhooked, so the school obviously didn't have any issues with the lack of "AP" classes on the transcript.

No hooks besides full pay and private school.

Bitter much? You might want to read up on what need-blind means. And if private school was such a hook then why don't you do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/10/course-rigor-and-curriculum-strength.html

There's a whole section about APs in this blog.

Plenty of people want to know how many AP courses a student should take to be competitive in our process. We don't approach applications this way. First of all, not everyone goes to a school with APs as an option.

They also know when you're avoiding the perfectly excellent public schools that do have AP options and instead you're choosing a school that doesn't have it. They would also expect that if the coursework is more vigorous than public school AP classes, then the student should have no problem taking the AP exam to prove their knowledge. Paying $$$$ for private school shows you're not so poor that the exam is unaffordable.

We didn't avoid public school, we chose private HS after public elementary & middle schools. The private school we chose had AP classes up until this year, when they basically just renamed them to "Advanced". The kids are still going to take the AP exams in May. My kid is heading to one of the HYP schools in the fall unhooked, so the school obviously didn't have any issues with the lack of "AP" classes on the transcript.

No hooks besides full pay and private school.

Bitter much? You might want to read up on what need-blind means. And if private school was such a hook then why don't you do it?

Wow, sensitive. Hit a nerve. Looks like the next generation of douche is on track.

[Anonymous]

Oh stop. Of course private is a hook. I have no problem with it and the schools clearly value the education private schools deliver. But it’s an enormous advantage. I have two in public and three in private and the grades/ranking/scores of the private kids get acceptances where comparable public kids don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It gives people another pathway to compare public school performance vs privates. By eliminating it, they don’t need to worry about direct comparisons. Win-win situ for them.

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop. Of course private is a hook. I have no problem with it and the schools clearly value the education private schools deliver. But it’s an enormous advantage. I have two in public and three in private and the grades/ranking/scores of the private kids get acceptances where comparable public kids don’t.

I don't understand how private school is a hook if they don't offer AP classes and aren't as strong in STEM as public schools. Aren't those the two most important things to colleges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop. Of course private is a hook. I have no problem with it and the schools clearly value the education private schools deliver. But it’s an enormous advantage. I have two in public and three in private and the grades/ranking/scores of the private kids get acceptances where comparable public kids don’t.

I don't understand how private school is a hook if they don't offer AP classes and aren't as strong in STEM as public schools. Aren't those the two most important things to colleges?

Who said they aren’t as strong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe PP. when I was touring colleges they made a big deal about AP and AP credits. Said kids who come in with credits are often top students and can graduate a year early or pick up a double major. If you don’t think those are excellent points whatever- enjoy your fancy private school.

Narrator: The "fancy private school" kids are still taking 5+ AP exams. The courses are just relabeled.

If the kids could do better than top public schools they would want that information published.

Published, where? No one publishes their AP exam results. You share them with your college so you can determine placement or get credits for work done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop. Of course private is a hook. I have no problem with it and the schools clearly value the education private schools deliver. But it’s an enormous advantage. I have two in public and three in private and the grades/ranking/scores of the private kids get acceptances where comparable public kids don’t.

I don't understand how private school is a hook if they don't offer AP classes and aren't as strong in STEM as public schools. Aren't those the two most important things to colleges?

Who said they aren’t as strong?

The public school parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe PP. when I was touring colleges they made a big deal about AP and AP credits. Said kids who come in with credits are often top students and can graduate a year early or pick up a double major. If you don’t think those are excellent points whatever- enjoy your fancy private school.

Narrator: The "fancy private school" kids are still taking 5+ AP exams. The courses are just relabeled.

If the kids could do better than top public schools they would want that information published.

Published, where? No one publishes their AP exam results. You share them with your college so you can determine placement or get credits for work done.

Schools release anonymized accounts of AP pass rates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh stop. Of course private is a hook. I have no problem with it and the schools clearly value the education private schools deliver. But it’s an enormous advantage. I have two in public and three in private and the grades/ranking/scores of the private kids get acceptances where comparable public kids don’t.

I don't understand how private school is a hook if they don't offer AP classes and aren't as strong in STEM as public schools. Aren't those the two most important things to colleges?

Who said they aren’t as strong?

The public school parents.

Not this one! I don’t share all the AP conspiracy theories and private hate. All I’ve said is that the ambitious kids take the most ambitious schedules, whatever they call those classes.