Duke vs. UVA (In-State)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

OOS yield is much lower than in-state.

[Anonymous]

Duke is definitely more prestigious, and its alumni connections would likely reflect that. That is a consideration IMO for throughout one’s career. Also, facilities at a private university are going to be superior to a state school, even one as good as UVA. If you can swing it financially, I’d go with Duke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

OOS yield is much lower than in-state.

What am I missing? I read the OOS acceptance rate at 19% not 50%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is definitely more prestigious, and its alumni connections would likely reflect that. That is a consideration IMO for throughout one’s career. Also, facilities at a private university are going to be superior to a state school, even one as good as UVA. If you can swing it financially, I’d go with Duke.

Maybe once upon a time but not anymore. Not since the Duke Lacrosse scandal and the Gang of 88. I went there. Duke simply isn't worth $80K a year in after tax dollars. Go to UVA for undergrad and save the money for a prestigious law school (Duke's law school is now $103K a year).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is definitely more prestigious, and its alumni connections would likely reflect that. That is a consideration IMO for throughout one’s career. Also, facilities at a private university are going to be superior to a state school, even one as good as UVA. If you can swing it financially, I’d go with Duke.

Maybe once upon a time but not anymore. Not since the Duke Lacrosse scandal and the Gang of 88. I went there. Duke simply isn't worth $80K a year in after tax dollars. Go to UVA for undergrad and save the money for a prestigious law school (Duke's law school is now $103K a year).

Duke is still definitely more prestigious. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

OOS yield is much lower than in-state.

What am I missing? I read the OOS acceptance rate at 19% not 50%.

A brain, apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

OOS yield is much lower than in-state.

What am I missing? I read the OOS acceptance rate at 19% not 50%.

Total UVA offers: 9787 Total VA Offers; 4331 Total OOS offers 5456 ---> More OOS accepted. (more than 50%)
Total applications: 40,869 Total number of VA apps: 12,010 Total number of OOS apps: 28,859 ---> More OOS application (19% offer rate)

Hope this helps.

[Anonymous]

OP in NYC they’re both viewed as very good albeit super douchey, southern frat-boy unis......I would definitely go with the cheaper alternative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP in NYC they’re both viewed as very good albeit super douchey, southern frat-boy unis......I would definitely go with the cheaper alternative.

I'd agree with this. Nationally Duke's reputation derives mostly from basketball. In the northeast both schools have the reputation that PP describes. And in the fields that apparently interest OP -- law and business -- they are undoubtedly equals.

I know it irritates the f*ck out of lots of posters that UVA has a reputation on par with top 10-20 privates, but it does. Any student from VA who is Duke-like would be crazy to pick Duke unless she or he was independently wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is definitely more prestigious, and its alumni connections would likely reflect that. That is a consideration IMO for throughout one’s career. Also, facilities at a private university are going to be superior to a state school, even one as good as UVA. If you can swing it financially, I’d go with Duke.

Ehh....

Growing up in the fancy private school world in Baltimore, Duke and UVA were close enough in prestige. UVA was, and I'm sure it is, very popular even as an OOS option for affluent preppy southern-leaning families and all their UVA bound kids go into finance or law or investment management and do extremely well in life. Duke had some preppies, but also an equal amount of dorkies.

There's quite a few UVA alums working on Wall Street. UVA is very respected and has a long history. Duke alum circles aren't particularly more impressive especially outside the mid-Atlantic. I wouldn't pay to go to Duke if UVA was the in-state option unless money was absolutely no issue whatsoever.

FYI I went to an Ivy. The notion of prestige really greatly drops after your first post-Ivy job. Only HYP, and even then I'd argue only Harvard, can carry you further simply based on the school name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is definitely more prestigious, and its alumni connections would likely reflect that. That is a consideration IMO for throughout one’s career. Also, facilities at a private university are going to be superior to a state school, even one as good as UVA. If you can swing it financially, I’d go with Duke.

Ehh....

Growing up in the fancy private school world in Baltimore, Duke and UVA were close enough in prestige. UVA was, and I'm sure it is, very popular even as an OOS option for affluent preppy southern-leaning families and all their UVA bound kids go into finance or law or investment management and do extremely well in life. Duke had some preppies, but also an equal amount of dorkies.

There's quite a few UVA alums working on Wall Street. UVA is very respected and has a long history. Duke alum circles aren't particularly more impressive especially outside the mid-Atlantic. I wouldn't pay to go to Duke if UVA was the in-state option unless money was absolutely no issue whatsoever.

FYI I went to an Ivy. The notion of prestige really greatly drops after your first post-Ivy job. Only HYP, and even then I'd argue only Harvard, can carry you further simply based on the school name.

+1000. You nailed it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Parchment, Duke is preferred over UVA 88% to 12%

That is not the ratio for instate VA students making the choice. I would bet it is 50/50 (due directly to the fact that Duke costs over 2x the price for in state VA students).

I agree. More than half of accepted students to UVA are from out of state, and their cost/benefit calculation is different.

more than 50% of students accepted to UVA are OOS? You sure about that?

It's not hard to confirm:

https://admission.virginia.edu/unofficial-admission-statistics-uva-class-2023

OOS yield is much lower than in-state.

What am I missing? I read the OOS acceptance rate at 19% not 50%.

Total UVA offers: 9787 Total VA Offers; 4331 Total OOS offers 5456 ---> More OOS accepted. (more than 50%)
Total applications: 40,869 Total number of VA apps: 12,010 Total number of OOS apps: 28,859 ---> More OOS application (19% offer rate)

Hope this helps.

More OOS admitted, few accept (lower yield), that is how they get to 1/3rd OOS and 2/3rd in-state.