Top 10 college chances

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Kids with B+ in math classes below BC Calc were told by VT they might have tough time getting into VT Engineering this year.

I doubt VT "told" them this.

Were you in the room when the admissions Rep came to TJ? My DD was.

Any admin rep that tells a room full of students that they need to make a specific grade in one particular class, or else they won’t be admitted (without taking any other factors into consideration), is full of crap and should be reprimanded.

I agree. No one really knows how students are admitted and rejected. A lot of factors come into play, including gender, race, major, gpa, SAT, EC’s etc. To say a specific grade in a class would be the deciding factor is BS.

But I do know families who send their kids to TJ because they think TJ is the ticket to MIT/HYPS which is a ticket to becoming a millionaire

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Don’t do top 10 heavy on applications. Diversify and look into 11-50.

I heard at Notre Dame, even those with top HS science and math grades and scores might have to choose a non-stem major (literature, poly sci) b/c engineering is so tough.

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Kids with B+ in math classes below BC Calc were told by VT they might have tough time getting into VT Engineering this year.

I doubt VT "told" them this.

We were told that. In person. At VT. Also, at visitation day for the engineering school. The admin. showed the profile of student applications who were accepted. 4.0 (obviously weighted) was the absolute minimum for engineering (other schools can be lower, although architecture and the undergrad vet program are also difficult to get into). We talked in person with an admissions rep. who told us that for engineering, which is what DD wanted at the time, VT wants to see calculus done with an "A". The reason is obvious: VT wants the engineering students to hit the ground running. They don't want to spend time and money running remedial calculus classes - hence the math lab. I think you will find this is true for most engineering programs, GMU included.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

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Does your son expect stellar teacher recs? Is he a good writer. Standout teacher recs and a very strong essay may push him over the edge for top 10

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

Probably from the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia (SCEV) website.

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Anonymous wrote:What constitute "top 10" and why do you want to go "there" - seems pretty superficial when you don't define the schools or compare programs or attributes.

Thought the entire point of TJ WAS to go to a top 10 college!! Especially MIT and Stanford

Absolutely! Who cares what kind of education you get there?

OP- what your kid wants to study will make a difference. How they write will make a difference. What they want from a school besides it’s rank will make a difference. And it will still be a crap shoot.

Huh? My TJ grad received a top notch high school experience and finds college pretty easy. She goes to a top 20 school. There are wonderful colleges that aren’t MIT or Stanford.

Everyone should care about the quality of their high school experience.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

Although a year old, it's from the school's "Common Data Set" 99% of schools provide information via this report. The most recent report for UVA shows incoming freshman with average GPA of 4.30 with 85% of kids reporting. Who knows about the other 15%...international? Athletes?

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

Although a year old, it's from the school's "Common Data Set" 99% of schools provide information via this report. The most recent report for UVA shows incoming freshman with average GPA of 4.30 with 85% of kids reporting. Who knows about the other 15%...international? Athletes?

Harvard reports an average GPA of 4.18 in its CDS. UVA is 4.3. UNC-CH is 4.7. One can only conclude UNC-CH is much more selective than Harvard.

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Kids with B+ in math classes below BC Calc were told by VT they might have tough time getting into VT Engineering this year.

I doubt VT "told" them this.

Were you in the room when the admissions Rep came to TJ? My DD was.

Any admin rep that tells a room full of students that they need to make a specific grade in one particular class, or else they won’t be admitted (without taking any other factors into consideration), is full of crap and should be reprimanded.

No, an admissions Rep tells a group of students that to have a good chance of getting into engineering in 2020 (overenrolled) they should not have a grades below A- in Math classes (plural), and math through at least BC. You do realize VT is now ranked 13th in engineering, right? And works closely with TJ?

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Kids with B+ in math classes below BC Calc were told by VT they might have tough time getting into VT Engineering this year.

I doubt VT "told" them this.

Were you in the room when the admissions Rep came to TJ? My DD was.

Any admin rep that tells a room full of students that they need to make a specific grade in one particular class, or else they won’t be admitted (without taking any other factors into consideration), is full of crap and should be reprimanded.

I agree. No one really knows how students are admitted and rejected. A lot of factors come into play, including gender, race, major, gpa, SAT, EC’s etc. To say a specific grade in a class would be the deciding factor is BS.

But I do know families who send their kids to TJ because they think TJ is the ticket to MIT/HYPS which is a ticket to becoming a millionaire

It’s the whole math track, Math 3-BC. And it’s “this is what we are looking for in engineering applicants”. I’m sure kids are getting in with a B or two. But ideally, this is what we look for. And if you didn’t know that good engineering schools expect As in math and physics, I can’t help you.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

Although a year old, it's from the school's "Common Data Set" 99% of schools provide information via this report. The most recent report for UVA shows incoming freshman with average GPA of 4.30 with 85% of kids reporting. Who knows about the other 15%...international? Athletes?

Harvard reports an average GPA of 4.18 in its CDS. UVA is 4.3. UNC-CH is 4.7. One can only conclude UNC-CH is much more selective than Harvard.

I’m from Mc and that’s a weird stat. UNC has very restricted OOS admissions. Unless it’s changed recently, 85% of admits must be from in state. But NC public education sucks (says the product of Nc public education). And it’s been getting worse recently. The standards are so high OOS. Like Ivy high. But you would be shocked by who can get in from in state. Especially since UNC is in research triangle which is most of the good schools. So, for kids there, it’s like going to Mason. Hey! I’m going to the college where my mom teaches.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.

Where do those numbers come from? Lots of private school kids go to UVA with GPA's that cannot be above 4 so I doubt that is a number from UVA itself. So is it from one of the public schools mentioned?

Although a year old, it's from the school's "Common Data Set" 99% of schools provide information via this report. The most recent report for UVA shows incoming freshman with average GPA of 4.30 with 85% of kids reporting. Who knows about the other 15%...international? Athletes?

Harvard reports an average GPA of 4.18 in its CDS. UVA is 4.3. UNC-CH is 4.7. One can only conclude UNC-CH is much more selective than Harvard.

I’m from Mc and that’s a weird stat. UNC has very restricted OOS admissions. Unless it’s changed recently, 85% of admits must be from in state. But NC public education sucks (says the product of Nc public education). And it’s been getting worse recently. The standards are so high OOS. Like Ivy high. But you would be shocked by who can get in from in state. Especially since UNC is in research triangle which is most of the good schools. So, for kids there, it’s like going to Mason. Hey! I’m going to the college where my mom teaches.

Stanford average CDS GPA is 3.95, so it is crushed in selectivity by all of the schools above.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at TJ and his post sophomore year GPA is 4.30. Has 3 b+ so far ( 2 from math ) and 1 in Spanish. SAT score is 1550.Very good extra curriculars. Wondering how these 3 B+ grades will affect the top 10 college chances.

The 75th percentile for median GPA was a 4.49 for UVA for entering students (not those accepted, which is a higher figure, but those who actually showed up) for fall 2019. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Even the median 50th percentile for entering students is higher than a 4.30.

Two thirds has. First, UVA is more forgiving on GPA for TJ. They know the drill and about grade deflation, and that things like AP Wprld History and first year AP CS and AP Physics below C aren’t an option. So, TJ has a lower GPA requirement. Plus, they don’t weight DT, PE, Langauage. It’s hard to get more than one AP in sophomore year— because again, no AP into Cs. No AP WH. You are looking at graduating GPAs. General rule of thing at TJ is+.1 for each of senior and and junior years, maybe a bit less, if you stay on your trajectory. The 4.3 kid probably graduates with a 4.45.

I know UVA is actually number #1 in the US, has the smartest kids in the universe and is definitely better than the top 10 schools this post is about. Everyone wants to go there over an Ivy League college. It’s better than Oxford which only takes UVA rejects. ... You people are clowns!


That may be true, but the 4.49 for 75th percentile is for those students who actually showed up to UVA last fall. The stats of the ACCEPTED students are much higher. High stats TJ students, and McLean and Langley students high stats students, used to use UVA as a safety while they tried for Ivies. Those days are over.