Joe Biden denied communion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe that faith has a personal and a public dimension. Whatever Biden's interior state may be, he is objectively and publicly denying a fundamental tenet of the faith, and doing so as a public figure. Whether he and others in a similar position should be permitted to receive the Eucharist has been debated at length in canon law circles. The better argument clearly is that the priest actually has a duty to deny Biden the Eucharist because of the public nature of his dissent, his longstanding persistence in his positions despite numerous private and public admonitions, and his contumacious refusal voluntarily to refrain from coming forward at communion time. Biden's assertion that he privately holds beliefs different than his public positions but does not want to "impose" them on others is entirely specious. He regularly imposes his own beliefs via legislation on other subjects. His attempted dodge is nothing more than a "Nuremburg defense," and equally ineffectual.

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Actually, the better argument clearly is to do as Jesus would do and not to inject politics into the sacrament.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does he deny it to divorced people too? Or check that people didn't have sex before they were married?
Or is he just picking and choosing as a true right wing bible basher does?

This priest is a hypocrite. This is not how Jesus would act.

preach

+1

+2. He shouldn’t be a priest.

[Anonymous]

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That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

If you say so, it must be true.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-communion-abortion/

"Morey’s very explanation of his purported actions (“Any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching”) clearly indicates at the very least a strong, preexisting disagreement with Biden, on his part, with regard to reproductive-health issues.

Second, Morey has in the recent past made donations to Republican political campaigns — contributing to the presidential primary campaign of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, in 2015, and to the primary campaign of then-U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, in 2011. We found no record of Morey having contributed to Democratic candidates. This indicates clear, preexisting support, on Morey’s part, for the political party opposite to Biden’s."

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/10/7-facts-about-american-catholics/

5Many Catholics support changes in key church teachings and policiesMany U.S. Catholics say they want to see the church make significant changes. For example, six-in-ten say they think the church should allow priests to marry and allow women to become priests. And nearly half of U.S. Catholics say the church should recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples. Support for these kinds of changes is lower – though still substantial – among Catholics who attend Mass regularly than it is among those who attend Mass less often.

6Politically, Catholic registered voters are evenly split between those who identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party (47%) and those who favor the GOP (46%). In their partisanship, U.S. Catholics are deeply divided along racial and ethnic lines. Most Hispanic Catholics identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, while 54% of white Catholics today identify with or lean toward the GOP.

[Anonymous]

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That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

[Anonymous]

Religion IS the opiate of the masses. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

We do believe in the teachings of Jesus we just don’t agree with all the ridiculous changes that some of the Vatican is made that were completely against Jesus‘s teachings .

Why don’t you guys create a whole new religion if you want to keep changing the rules to go against what Jesus actually said .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Catholic Church cares about power and protection, protecting pedophile priests and the unborn. It does not care about emulating Christ.

Nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

See, the problem is that the high horse doesn't sit so well when you have been raping children and covering it up, or at least vocally supporting the institution that recently did so. We need to clean our own house -- really, truly, and with a solid track record of not playing rapist shuffleboard with our dignified hierarchy -- before we pat ourselves on the back for posting "in Christ."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

A little bit hypocritical coming from someone who is a member of an organization that was founded because it disagreed with church teachings, don't you think?

Do you still take communion in the Catholic church?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

We do believe in the teachings of Jesus we just don’t agree with all the ridiculous changes that some of the Vatican is made that were completely against Jesus‘s teachings .

Why don’t you guys create a whole new religion if you want to keep changing the rules to go against what Jesus actually said .

Where did Jesus speak on abortion? Or Latin masses?

Either you think the church should allow people to disagree, or you don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

We do believe in the teachings of Jesus we just don’t agree with all the ridiculous changes that some of the Vatican is made that were completely against Jesus‘s teachings .

Why don’t you guys create a whole new religion if you want to keep changing the rules to go against what Jesus actually said .

Well dear friend, let’s see what Christ said

“ But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” Luke 19:27

“ Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.” John 3;18

“ You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.” Mathew 5:27-30

“ But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into its streets and say, ‘Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near.’ I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.” Like 10:10-12( note he says that those who do not accept the teachings of his apostles/ ie the Church, will be damned)

“The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.” Luke 10:16 ( he says this to the Apostles. The Bishops and priests of the Church are the successors of the Apostles. If you don’t submit to the Church, you will be damned)

So again, stop selectively quoting Jesus to make it seem like he never condemned anyone. He cond3mned public sin. If you don’t agree with his Apostles, then leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

We do believe in the teachings of Jesus we just don’t agree with all the ridiculous changes that some of the Vatican is made that were completely against Jesus‘s teachings .

Why don’t you guys create a whole new religion if you want to keep changing the rules to go against what Jesus actually said .

Where did Jesus speak on abortion? Or Latin masses?

Either you think the church should allow people to disagree, or you don't.

Jesus said we must keep the commandments. Abortion is murder. The 6th commandments forbids murder. Christ makes it clear in John 6 that the Eucharist is his Body and Blood. He makes it even clearer in the other Gospels that the Mass is a sacrafice. The New Mass does not have a sacrificial element and must be rejected.
In Christ
SSPX poster

[Anonymous]

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So again, stop selectively quoting Jesus to make it seem like he never condemned anyone. He cond3mned public sin. If you don’t agree with his Apostles, then leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

Public pride, my, my. Such an excellent representation of your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's all fine from a Church legalese perspective. Doesn't change that it was un-christ like and hypocritical and inappropriate for the Priest to inject the Church into politics. But as long as some theologians worked out the legal pretzels, you can rest self-satisfied.

This is why the Church is losing members, you know.

Christ welcomed sinners but called them to repent. Biden is unrepentant and in a public forum. It was not the priest who politicized anything. Biden politicized his religious observance himself. As for the Church being "injected" into politics, once again it was Biden who knowingly approached the Eucharist while objectively indisposed to receive it.

As for losing members, parishes, dioceses and denominations that are faithful to tradition seem to be growing. Others, not so much. The Church is charged to announce the Gospel, not pander to those not interested in hearing it. The collapse of mainline Protestantism is an object lesson in the consequences of a religious observance driven by secular concerns.

This. Why don5 the pseudo-Catholic posters on here just become Episcopalians? If you don’t agree with the Church, leave.
In Christ
SSPX poster

A little bit hypocritical coming from someone who is a member of an organization that was founded because it disagreed with church teachings, don't you think?

Do you still take communion in the Catholic church?

The SSPX does not disagree with Church teaching. It rejects Vatican 2 wh8ch contradicts previous Church teaching( it is a dogma of Faith that the Church can not contradict itself) The Council Fathers explicitly said that Vatican 2 was not binding( so it can be rejected)

[Anonymous]

You pseudo-Catholics need to become Episcopalians. You are Protestant in your thinking. Sola Scriptura( or Scripture alone) is the heresy of Luther. If you reject the Church’s teachings become a Lutheran or Episcopalian
In Christ
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