“Ask 3 before me”

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


Every single worksheet ever comes with directions written at the top. Again... the kids don’t read them and then want you to explain it 4x over!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


Every single worksheet ever comes with directions written at the top. Again... the kids don’t read them and then want you to explain it 4x over!


I will say there were no directions on this worksheet. It only said “super sentences” at the top, and then had the checklist of things to remember when writing sentences.
Anonymous
I think the main thing here is how you approach the failure. Attacking the rule to try to retroactively prevent it is maybe not the best option.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


Every single worksheet ever comes with directions written at the top. Again... the kids don’t read them and then want you to explain it 4x over!


I will say there were no directions on this worksheet. It only said “super sentences” at the top, and then had the checklist of things to remember when writing sentences.


Yep, teachers give bad instructions or confusing instructions all the time and then get upset when kids don't understand them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


Every single worksheet ever comes with directions written at the top. Again... the kids don’t read them and then want you to explain it 4x over!


I will say there were no directions on this worksheet. It only said “super sentences” at the top, and then had the checklist of things to remember when writing sentences.


Yep, teachers give bad instructions or confusing instructions all the time and then get upset when kids don't understand them.


Yes. I have personally witnessed this in the classroom as a volunteer. They throw out multiple step directions and expect all kids to remember equally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


Every single worksheet ever comes with directions written at the top. Again... the kids don’t read them and then want you to explain it 4x over!


I will say there were no directions on this worksheet. It only said “super sentences” at the top, and then had the checklist of things to remember when writing sentences.


Yep, teachers give bad instructions or confusing instructions all the time and then get upset when kids don't understand them.


Yes. I have personally witnessed this in the classroom as a volunteer. They throw out multiple step directions and expect all kids to remember equally.


My boss does this too. Even my clients!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this is nearly always because kids were not listening while I give very specific instructions multiple times. From the child’s perspective, he was playing, having fun, talking to friends, and then all of a sudden magically he was asked to do something and didn’t know how. So of course he will come home to complain. Give him the tools to succeed by helping him pay attention when instruction is being given.


Or maybe he can’t remember the directions? Verbal directions are tough to remember. I need it in writing.


It took me until I hit law school to figure out that I’m a visual learner. Anything auditory and I just cannot retain it. It’s a different learning style and the teacher should be aware of this. I had a really hard time in school following directions and remember feeling shamed by my teachers...to this day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:'NP here. Exactly— he had a real question & felt he couldn’t ask the teacher for help. My kid has a teacher who does this, and I think it’s lazy teaching at some point. Sure, there are things kids could legitimately ask a peer, but kids shouldn’t be relying on peers to teach them how to do the schoolwork. That is ridiculous. Also, my kid has gotten frustrated when the teacher won’t answer a question that clearly none of the kids can answer. It’s the teacher’s job to address kids’ legitimate questions."



+1000 percent



Agree. Really bad teaching. My kids’ middle school teachers have the same rule.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.

Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.



Don’t be ridiculous, fabulous teachers have managed 23 students, and more, just fine without silly and lazy “ask 3 before me” rules.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.

Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.



Don’t be ridiculous, fabulous teachers have managed 23 students, and more, just fine without silly and lazy “ask 3 before me” rules.


They had those rules then too. Kids just didn’t tattle all the damn time and blame their teacher for everything because they knew their parents would side with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.

Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.



Don’t be ridiculous, fabulous teachers have managed 23 students, and more, just fine without silly and lazy “ask 3 before me” rules.


The rule isn’t silly or lazy. The rule (or lack thereof) doesn’t make a teacher fabulous or not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.

Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.



Don’t be ridiculous, fabulous teachers have managed 23 students, and more, just fine without silly and lazy “ask 3 before me” rules.


They had those rules then too. Kids just didn’t tattle all the damn time and blame their teacher for everything because they knew their parents would side with them.


We aren’t talking about tattling. We’re talking about when kids have a question about how to do something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that teachers can not win. If the teacher spends the entire reading block answering simple questions about a follow up activity or a center, the reading group children will not learn to read. Imagine, for just a second, that you were responsible for 26 six year olds. The most meaningful part of the reading block is small group instruction at the students level. The follow ups are important but they are also reviewed the next day with the group. Now you have 23 other students who ask silly six year old questions about everything from getting a drink of water to where should I write my name. Now you have not instructed a single child on their level at a critical juncture in the learning to read years. You are now livid that your child is not learning to read because someone else is constantly interrupting their instruction.

Parents please remember that although your child is, and should be, your number one priority, they are one of many in the classroom. To a teacher, they are no more or less important than any other child. They are more than capable of asking a friend first as many of the children will know exactly what to do which preserves the time for your child to learn to read on their instructional level.



Don’t be ridiculous, fabulous teachers have managed 23 students, and more, just fine without silly and lazy “ask 3 before me” rules.


The rule isn’t silly or lazy. The rule (or lack thereof) doesn’t make a teacher fabulous or not.


This rule shouldn't be used on 6 year old--too young.
Anonymous
I’m curious what posters think should happen instead? So the teachers goes over directions and asks if students have questions about the assignment. Should she allow students to interrupt her small group whenever they want? If you could seen what that looks like, I bet you would think differently.
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