How much do you pay for in-home care for an infant?

[Anonymous]

Imagine that. Parents who thought they were in control don't like finding out that they aren't.

Clue in that if as a parent you have a job and are paid on salary then you get your salary. If you have a job and are paid hourly then you are paid hourly. If your job says you get X paid vacation time then that is what you have a right to. Same applies to daycare. If you sign a contract that says you pay X amount per month, pay for vacation and regardless of attendance.. then that is what you pay. If you don't like that then don't sign the damn contract. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

I just cancelled my cable. This is so entertaining and a much better use of my time than watching TV. Gotta run now and get some chips and pop so I can sit back and really relax. Yep, sometimes the truth IS stranger than fiction!

Oh, there's that angry bitterness again.

Oh and don't worry. While I'm posting all my kids are sitting in their six hour old diapers eating crumbs off the floor all the while plopped in front of the TV. It really sucks for them too now that I don't have cable and all.

Just thought I would put out a visualization for anonymous who asked what I was doing posting during busienss hours. Because we all KNOW that was what he/she was really saying.

You know it's sad...because the kids in my care eat better than at home, get the best care here and spend more time with me than their parents. And considering that they love coming back every day, tell me they love me and behave better for me than at home (hence the evidence that I RESPECT them and ask for them to be the best people they can be) I think we can all disern the condescending and sarcastic tone of the highlighted part above.

I have come to the realization that there are some GREAT families and parents out there and I am blessed to have quite a few of them. But sadly, there will always be naysayers and those whose mission in life is to treat people who care for the most delicate segment of our society with disdain. Nohting I say will change their point of view but that does not mean we shouldn't stop pointing out the truth.

JudyTrickett

[Anonymous]

I question whether any provider is able to provide quality care to children without it being tainted by seething disdain for their parents. (No, martyred pity for the poor, poor children doesn't count.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Judy, why are you posting on DCUM in the middle of the work week? Shouldn't you be watching the children in your care? If my kids were in your home, and I found out that you were goofing off, you'd be fired in a heartbeat.

Oh sweetie, here-in-lies the problem. You are suffering from delusions of granduer or simply poor vocabulary...let me help you understand the reality of the situation...

You see, "to fire" implies that you in fact are an employer and that your provider is an employee...which is, as we all know, is simply not true. We are a business, like Target. Still following me?

So, when you walk in to Target and say, perhaps you don't like the price of oranges that day, you don't have the option of lowering the price because, that's right, you are not "the boss." You are a customer, if you don't like the price your option is to leave. Hence, if you don't like the nose ring that the cashier is wearing or your feel someone is "goofing off," again, you may leave but you many not "fire" the cashier as in fact, she is not your employee.

I certainly hope that helps you understand...here is to a brighter New Year for you.

Not registered, but my name is Jan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy, why are you posting on DCUM in the middle of the work week? Shouldn't you be watching the children in your care? If my kids were in your home, and I found out that you were goofing off, you'd be fired in a heartbeat.

Oh sweetie, here-in-lies the problem. You are suffering from delusions of granduer or simply poor vocabulary...let me help you understand the reality of the situation...

You see, "to fire" implies that you in fact are an employer and that your provider is an employee...which is, as we all know, is simply not true. We are a business, like Target. Still following me?

So, when you walk in to Target and say, perhaps you don't like the price of oranges that day, you don't have the option of lowering the price because, that's right, you are not "the boss." You are a customer, if you don't like the price your option is to leave. Hence, if you don't like the nose ring that the cashier is wearing or your feel someone is "goofing off," again, you may leave but you many not "fire" the cashier as in fact, she is not your employee.

I certainly hope that helps you understand...here is to a brighter New Year for you.

Not registered, but my name is Jan

Now that is funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy, why are you posting on DCUM in the middle of the work week? Shouldn't you be watching the children in your care? If my kids were in your home, and I found out that you were goofing off, you'd be fired in a heartbeat.

Oh sweetie, here-in-lies the problem. You are suffering from delusions of granduer or simply poor vocabulary...let me help you understand the reality of the situation...

You see, "to fire" implies that you in fact are an employer and that your provider is an employee...which is, as we all know, is simply not true. We are a business, like Target. Still following me?

So, when you walk in to Target and say, perhaps you don't like the price of oranges that day, you don't have the option of lowering the price because, that's right, you are not "the boss." You are a customer, if you don't like the price your option is to leave. Hence, if you don't like the nose ring that the cashier is wearing or your feel someone is "goofing off," again, you may leave but you many not "fire" the cashier as in fact, she is not your employee.

I certainly hope that helps you understand...here is to a brighter New Year for you.

Not registered, but my name is Jan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judy, why are you posting on DCUM in the middle of the work week? Shouldn't you be watching the children in your care? If my kids were in your home, and I found out that you were goofing off, you'd be fired in a heartbeat.

Oh sweetie, here-in-lies the problem. You are suffering from delusions of granduer or simply poor vocabulary...let me help you understand the reality of the situation...

You see, "to fire" implies that you in fact are an employer and that your provider is an employee...which is, as we all know, is simply not true. We are a business, like Target. Still following me?

So, when you walk in to Target and say, perhaps you don't like the price of oranges that day, you don't have the option of lowering the price because, that's right, you are not "the boss." You are a customer, if you don't like the price your option is to leave. Hence, if you don't like the nose ring that the cashier is wearing or your feel someone is "goofing off," again, you may leave but you many not "fire" the cashier as in fact, she is not your employee.

I certainly hope that helps you understand...here is to a brighter New Year for you.

Not registered, but my name is Jan

(((spitting coffee out through my nose)))

Judy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I question whether any provider is able to provide quality care to children without it being tainted by seething disdain for their parents. (No, martyred pity for the poor, poor children doesn't count.)

Then perhaps parents should tow the line and there wouldn't be a reason for such disdain. Just a thought. I guess the question is.....are your children worth it? Is it worth it to YOU as a parent , who assumes ones disdain for a parent reflects upon the child (YOUR words, not mine) to be respectful of your daycare provider? Because with that line of thinking then ultimately YOU choose to have your child treated poorly because of your arrogance and lack of respect for the person who cares for you most precious gift.

BTW, I don't agree with your thought process. Many providers like the kids in their care and actually feel BAD for them when their parents act like complete asses. If I had a dime for every time a daycare provider bathed a dirty child, spent her OWN money on hats and mitts so that child who arrived consistently unprepared for play in three feet of snow had warm hands, or feeding a child at PROPER breakfast when the child shows up with donut holes and Sunny D in their cup I would be RICH beyond words.

Your assumption that the sins of the parents reflect on the children just add further fuel to every daycare providers arguement that you underestimate us and what it is we do.

Judy Trickett

[Anonymous]

New poster - I do agree that daycare providers should get vacation and I think the providers have made some excellent point.

What concerns me is that there is a home provider spending so much time on the internet. Please tell me you have back up care - this seems incredibly dangerous to me - what if a child were to go near the steps, pick up something dangerous? Etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BTW, I don't agree with your thought process. Many providers like the kids in their care and actually feel BAD for them when their parents act like complete asses. If I had a dime for every time a daycare provider bathed a dirty child, spent her OWN money on hats and mitts so that child who arrived consistently unprepared for play in three feet of snow had warm hands, or feeding a child at PROPER breakfast when the child shows up with donut holes and Sunny D in their cup I would be RICH beyond words.

Your assumption that the sins of the parents reflect on the children just add further fuel to every daycare providers arguement that you underestimate us and what it is we do.

Judy Trickett

Amen!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster - I do agree that daycare providers should get vacation and I think the providers have made some excellent point.

What concerns me is that there is a home provider spending so much time on the internet. Please tell me you have back up care - this seems incredibly dangerous to me - what if a child were to go near the steps, pick up something dangerous? Etc.

Thank you. You sound like a reasonable, kind person. I will answer your question. For me, personally, I have two kids arrive very late hence the reason I was her earlier. Now my two cuties are both resting so I take this time to connect with adults. As you can imagine, it can be very isolating to work from home with no adult interaction. Many providers use the internet not only to interact and feel like a "person" they also do so to gain insight, gain wisdom from other providers, print off activity sheets etc.

I think it important for everyone to keep in mind that many of us work 10 plus hours a day with NO break whatsoever. So, it is also not unusual to know of a provider using her laptop (yes, most of them you will find have laptops) while sitting in her playroom while the kids play Play-doh, enjoy a snack etc. There are times during the day in any daycare that are free play time. These are times that the children learn to play independent of an adult (but still with an adult supervising) and learning how to get along in a play situation with their little friends gaining social skills and practicing sharing, role play etc. It is at these times that even I will sit on the floor, laptop in my lap networking with collegues and partaking in continuing education to enhance my skill set as it pertains to my profession.


It' a valid question.

Judy Trickett

[Anonymous]

Well, see....our homes are child safe. The steps have a gate, there are no dangerous items to pick up, no poisonous plants to be eaten, no socket left uncovered, no ropes to strangle with, etc.etc.etc.

I can't speak for everyone, but I do go online once or twice a day to catch up and socialize with other providers. I do this during "free play time, in my baby-proofed, stair gated playroom, where my computer sits about 5 feet from the kids. They are currently reading books (they being my preschoolers - 3 of them) and the baby is sleeping. I can hear them and see them, and I will be logging off as soon as I'm finished this post.

I might spend a little more time online during nap time, when the kids are sleeping arms length away from me. And I don't see anything wrong with that.

If I am caring for your child for 11 hours a day, then I have the right to spend 15 minutes regaining my sanity (it gets pretty hectic in a house with 5 kids) while they read a book. In MY house, they have a better chance of spontaneously combusting, then finding something dangerous in my playroom

[Anonymous]

^^^ Daisysmommy

[Anonymous]

I too think I may cancel my cable....hehehe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, see....our homes are child safe. The steps have a gate, there are no dangerous items to pick up, no poisonous plants to be eaten, no socket left uncovered, no ropes to strangle with, etc.etc.etc.

I can't speak for everyone, but I do go online once or twice a day to catch up and socialize with other providers. I do this during "free play time, in my baby-proofed, stair gated playroom, where my computer sits about 5 feet from the kids. They are currently reading books (they being my preschoolers - 3 of them) and the baby is sleeping. I can hear them and see them, and I will be logging off as soon as I'm finished this post.

I might spend a little more time online during nap time, when the kids are sleeping arms length away from me. And I don't see anything wrong with that.

If I am caring for your child for 11 hours a day, then I have the right to spend 15 minutes regaining my sanity (it gets pretty hectic in a house with 5 kids) while they read a book. In MY house, they have a better chance of spontaneously combusting, then finding something dangerous in my playroom

Thanks for your answer. I didn't appreciate the last part. Actually you are NOT caring for my child. We use a center and they don't have access to computers during the day. They do get an hour lunch break, and there hours are set from either 8-5 or 9-6 (with support staff coming in earlier and leaving earlier, and coming in later and leaving later).

And I don't leave my children in daycare for 11 hours. Actually, she gets dropped off by husband who works in the building at 9 and picked up at 5, four days a week.

I have no problem with providers getting and taking breaks. I have problems with safety and I was just clarifying that. It's a valid concern.