Mob attack on man entering DC Hilton last Sunday

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like a random attack to me. A couple kids start, their friends see the action and pile on. I hope they catch every single one of the perpetrators.

I get to safety when I see Black teens in DC together. Did you see the girl who took the wallet?

I would look more at their demeanor and other contextual cues, and less at the color of their skin.

We are a well-educated AA family in NW DC, young kids full pay in private, etc. Will you run from our kids in a few years if they walk around with another black friend or two?

I'd feel the exact same way as I do if they were white and acted this way. Thugs are thugs. Race irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

NP. No need to be dramatic. But PP is right - one of these days, these punks are going to go after the wrong person. It would actually be refreshing if that happened because that might be the most effective deterrent.

Kids get involved in violence because they have no hope. Shooting a few of them is not going to deter jack shit. You need to show compassion. Violence begets more violence.

The ones who "can't be deterred" are the ones who most need to be shot.

I reserve my compassion for the victims of crime, not for the criminals, who deserve only swift and decisive justice.

I agree what happened to this guy is absolutely horrible--but just wanted to point out that for many of these kids, they are both victims and perpetrators. That's what happens in many rough neighborhoods around DC--lots of trauma in this population.

There is no possible past that justifies kicking a person recently beaten into unconsciousness in the head while they lying are defenseless on the street, as one of the kids does. That is intentionally trying to inflict brain damage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a hate crime against a gay couple. White male and brown male couple; the white male tries to defend the brown male against the mob. You can see that right before the violence begins, the man in the white tank top says something toward the brown male who enters the hotel door.

So crazy how quickly is escalated. The group was stalking these two men.

why haven’t the victim or witnesses stated? this

They are probably scared for their lives, maybe the man is still in the hospital and recovering from horrific injuries.

Also you can see that the brown male who manages to escape from the mob is recording them with his cell phone. He does this while trapped in the rotating door and continues to record their faces when he comes out. I guarantee that the cops have more footage they have not released yet. These are likely minors, so perhaps that's why they have not released the clearer footage yet.

It happened earlier this month. He is out of the hospital. "The man suffered head injuries and a left eye socket injury. The witness suffered a swollen left eye. They were treated at a local hospital."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a hate crime against a gay couple. White male and brown male couple; the white male tries to defend the brown male against the mob. You can see that right before the violence begins, the man in the white tank top says something toward the brown male who enters the hotel door.

So crazy how quickly is escalated. The group was stalking these two men.

why haven’t the victim or witnesses stated? this

They are probably scared for their lives, maybe the man is still in the hospital and recovering from horrific injuries.

Also you can see that the brown male who manages to escape from the mob is recording them with his cell phone. He does this while trapped in the rotating door and continues to record their faces when he comes out. I guarantee that the cops have more footage they have not released yet. These are likely minors, so perhaps that's why they have not released the clearer footage yet.

It happened earlier this month. He is out of the hospital. "The man suffered head injuries and a left eye socket injury. The witness suffered a swollen left eye. They were treated at a local hospital."

I hope he is ok. This is so horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a hate crime against a gay couple. White male and brown male couple; the white male tries to defend the brown male against the mob. You can see that right before the violence begins, the man in the white tank top says something toward the brown male who enters the hotel door.

So crazy how quickly is escalated. The group was stalking these two men.

why haven’t the victim or witnesses stated? this

They are probably scared for their lives, maybe the man is still in the hospital and recovering from horrific injuries.

Also you can see that the brown male who manages to escape from the mob is recording them with his cell phone. He does this while trapped in the rotating door and continues to record their faces when he comes out. I guarantee that the cops have more footage they have not released yet. These are likely minors, so perhaps that's why they have not released the clearer footage yet.

It happened earlier this month. He is out of the hospital. "The man suffered head injuries and a left eye socket injury. The witness suffered a swollen left eye. They were treated at a local hospital."

Mealy-mouthed police statement won't mention the victim's possible PTSD or traumatic brain injury. A TBI can literally ruin your life, making you unable to work or even concentrate. It's a total life changing event and these kids were gleefully stomping this guy's head into the pavement.

WTF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like a random attack to me. A couple kids start, their friends see the action and pile on. I hope they catch every single one of the perpetrators.

I get to safety when I see Black teens in DC together. Did you see the girl who took the wallet?

I would look more at their demeanor and other contextual cues, and less at the color of their skin.

We are a well-educated AA family in NW DC, young kids full pay in private, etc. Will you run from our kids in a few years if they walk around with another black friend or two?

If they are 13-14 and out at 1am and in a group of 10, well, yeah, probably. Loud and raucous--definitely. But that goes to demeanor and context, no?

[Anonymous]

Is this the Hilton at k and 16th?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the Hilton at k and 16th?

its the one Where Reagan was shot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Hilton at k and 16th?

its the one Where Reagan was shot

Yep. Connecticut Ave. and T street in Dupont.

[Anonymous]

It's literally the same entrance where Reagan and Brady were shot. That stone wall in the top right of the video frame is the exact location.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

NP. No need to be dramatic. But PP is right - one of these days, these punks are going to go after the wrong person. It would actually be refreshing if that happened because that might be the most effective deterrent.

Kids get involved in violence because they have no hope. Shooting a few of them is not going to deter jack shit. You need to show compassion. Violence begets more violence.

A few down are a few less criminals. Seems like a win even if it is only a drop in the ocean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watched the video. This is attempted murder. All involved should be put away for a good long time.

What if they're only 13/14 as reported? I'm more angry at the parents that would let their young teens roam the streets at 1am. But I'm assuming the parents of these particular kids have their own issues.

So what if thry are 13/14? Put them away for the better part of their lives. I'd say a good 60 years is sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like a random attack to me. A couple kids start, their friends see the action and pile on. I hope they catch every single one of the perpetrators.

I get to safety when I see Black teens in DC together. Did you see the girl who took the wallet?

I would look more at their demeanor and other contextual cues, and less at the color of their skin.

We are a well-educated AA family in NW DC, young kids full pay in private, etc. Will you run from our kids in a few years if they walk around with another black friend or two?

If they are 13-14 and out at 1am and in a group of 10, well, yeah, probably. Loud and raucous--definitely. But that goes to demeanor and context, no?

PP here. I was responding to the bolded.

[Anonymous]

I feel zero empathy for that mob of thugs. Catch those losers and throw them in jail and throw away the key. DC is going to hell in a hand basket with its softie liberal policies. So glad I don’t live there!!

[Anonymous]

Well, they were all black.

So when I see a group of 20 plus black kids in NW DC, I would worry about the same thing.
Don’t gimme that BS that tour profiling them. What would you do if you saw 20 random Black teens walking late at night. Stuff like this should make African American community leaders work on the teen youth violence issue.