USMNT vs Curacao

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Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, less-well-off kids are left to fend for themselves. In Brazil, a poor kid with talent would have teams fighting over him

So the problem is there's not enough scouts in the US to find talents?

Nobody does any scouting. They wait for parents to bring the kids to them, along with a large check.

You made it sound like these pro clubs don't want to find the next Messi or Neymar on US soil. That makes no sense.

If the next Messi or Neymar is American, he won't be playing in MLS. And the structure of MLS creates a disincentive for individual clubs to develop a player like that and sell him to Europe, because they won't get to keep the money. Because MLS isn't a real league, it's a cartel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, less-well-off kids are left to fend for themselves. In Brazil, a poor kid with talent would have teams fighting over him

So the problem is there's not enough scouts in the US to find talents?

Nobody does any scouting. They wait for parents to bring the kids to them, along with a large check.

You made it sound like these pro clubs don't want to find the next Messi or Neymar on US soil. That makes no sense.

If the next Messi or Neymar is American, he won't be playing in MLS. And the structure of MLS creates a disincentive for individual clubs to develop a player like that and sell him to Europe, because they won't get to keep the money. Because MLS isn't a real league, it's a cartel.

Was Messi mostly developed locally in Argentina or in Europe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, less-well-off kids are left to fend for themselves. In Brazil, a poor kid with talent would have teams fighting over him

So the problem is there's not enough scouts in the US to find talents?

Nobody does any scouting. They wait for parents to bring the kids to them, along with a large check.

You made it sound like these pro clubs don't want to find the next Messi or Neymar on US soil. That makes no sense.

If the next Messi or Neymar is American, he won't be playing in MLS. And the structure of MLS creates a disincentive for individual clubs to develop a player like that and sell him to Europe, because they won't get to keep the money. Because MLS isn't a real league, it's a cartel.

It's not the job of MLS to foster American talent...it's to make money as a league. Don't confuse MLS with USSF.
And American talent doesn't have to play in the MLS, which is why most of the best American talent is heading to Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, less-well-off kids are left to fend for themselves. In Brazil, a poor kid with talent would have teams fighting over him

So the problem is there's not enough scouts in the US to find talents?

Nobody does any scouting. They wait for parents to bring the kids to them, along with a large check.

You made it sound like these pro clubs don't want to find the next Messi or Neymar on US soil. That makes no sense.

If the next Messi or Neymar is American, he won't be playing in MLS. And the structure of MLS creates a disincentive for individual clubs to develop a player like that and sell him to Europe, because they won't get to keep the money. Because MLS isn't a real league, it's a cartel.

It's not the job of MLS to foster American talent...it's to make money as a league. Don't confuse MLS with USSF.
And American talent doesn't have to play in the MLS, which is why most of the best American talent is heading to Europe.

I agree, but if MLS doesn't scout and develop neither does USSF or then there'll never be a US MessiNeymar... unless/until some rich international clubs had too much money to spend set up shop here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

Yes. They decided to become good at soccer, and the government supported the effort. Read:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/01/iceland-world-cup-soccer-nation-story-culture-heimir-hallgrimsson

Imagine if the US put this kind of effort in...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

Yes. They decided to become good at soccer, and the government supported the effort. Read:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/01/iceland-world-cup-soccer-nation-story-culture-heimir-hallgrimsson

Imagine if the US put this kind of effort in...

Ah yes, government intervention is EXACTLY what we need. This must be the board liberal.

Tell me, what was Iceland's #1 sport prior to soccer? Vodka shot swilling?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

Yes. They decided to become good at soccer, and the government supported the effort. Read:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/01/iceland-world-cup-soccer-nation-story-culture-heimir-hallgrimsson

Imagine if the US put this kind of effort in...

Ah yes, government intervention is EXACTLY what we need. This must be the board liberal.

Tell me, what was Iceland's #1 sport prior to soccer? Vodka shot swilling?

And what's your take? US Soccer sucks, but it's better to whine about it than try to fix it?
I wonder how much money it would take a year to make every DA absolutely free? If the government were to offer that money, you'd say 'no thanks'?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

Yes. They decided to become good at soccer, and the government supported the effort. Read:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/01/iceland-world-cup-soccer-nation-story-culture-heimir-hallgrimsson

Imagine if the US put this kind of effort in...

Ah yes, government intervention is EXACTLY what we need. This must be the board liberal.

Tell me, what was Iceland's #1 sport prior to soccer? Vodka shot swilling?

And what's your take? US Soccer sucks, but it's better to whine about it than try to fix it?
I wonder how much money it would take a year to make every DA absolutely free? If the government were to offer that money, you'd say 'no thanks'?

Yes. I would not “take” the money. The federal and state/local government do not exist to pay for children’s soccer. Bridges and roads are crumbling, kids take classes in trailers, people are starving and you want these entities funding youth soccer???

What insanity this thread has become.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

One in a country of 335 million. And he's no Messi, not even close, yet was bred for the sport and shipped to Europe to train when young. Think about that for a minute. It may support the original post.

The population # is irrelevant.

That’s not what’s being argued in these threads. People are making the claim that we should be stronger than less populous countries. I agree with you, population is irrelevant. Culture is supreme. That’s why we suck (relative term) at soccer. Like India and China.

Does Iceland have a superior soccer culture that fueled the rapid growth and then success in a decade+ period? I'm not sure that's the case.

Yes. They decided to become good at soccer, and the government supported the effort. Read:

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/06/01/iceland-world-cup-soccer-nation-story-culture-heimir-hallgrimsson

Imagine if the US put this kind of effort in...

Ah yes, government intervention is EXACTLY what we need. This must be the board liberal.

Tell me, what was Iceland's #1 sport prior to soccer? Vodka shot swilling?

And what's your take? US Soccer sucks, but it's better to whine about it than try to fix it?
I wonder how much money it would take a year to make every DA absolutely free? If the government were to offer that money, you'd say 'no thanks'?

The cost of one or two f22’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL maybe the problem is very simple: Americans suck at soccer.

I hate Chelsea, but this comment makes me wish Pulisic becomes the new Hazard and leads them to a Premier League win next year...

I was excited for Pulisic to be coached by Sarri, but Frank Lampard? Meh.