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The Black Sheep Liberal of the Family, Back in the Conservative Wolf Den on Thanksgiving
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Anonymous
didn't you get the memo? the proper way to describe minorities changes every 4 years, and you better keep up you racist! |
Anonymous
It drives me crazy that "people of color" is considered enlightened while "colored" gets you fired. This is liberal bullshit (and I am a liberal). |
Anonymous
Excuse me? Who are you calling a racist? |
Anonymous
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Conservative (with virtually 99 percent liberal friends), non-racist here: I say engage in discussion of politics--show your kids that it is fine to have different viewpoints. As for the racist stuff, can you just excuse yourself to be helpful in the kitchen and ask little ones to help--the grown-ups might get the message, but at least your kids are away from it. I personally think that kids shouldn't be shielded from disagreement, over legitimate things like politics, as long as the discussion/debate is just that, not a shouting match or trading of insults. I have these all the time with my liberal friends and it keeps us healthy (politically speaking). We also sometimes change each others minds on issues, which is actually really cool--and which is why having "loyal opposition" in this country is so great. Wouldn't want everyone to agree--that would be scary.
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Anonymous
Could you get any dumber? Views on race are different from country to country and from continent to continent. Heck, there are different categories of race from country to country. Some categories that exist in other countries don't exist in the U.S.A. an vice versa. In the UK, it is not offensive to describe people of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. descent as Oriental. In the United States, they are referred to as Asian and it would be considered offensive to many to be referred to as "Oriental." How dumb are you that you can't understand that in two different countries with separate histories have different customs and ways of life? Seriously, think before you type. |
Anonymous
So... have you ever read up on any history aside from what you were taught in K-12? Matter of fact, did you even pay attention to what you were taught in K-12? You can't see the difference? I'm guessing you were absent from school every time they taught about segregation, the Civil Rights movement, "separate but equal" schools, "colored" water fountains, etc... |
Anonymous
seriously, how f___ing stupid are you that you don't get sarcasm? wow ... |
Anonymous
| people of color = colored. to deny that is just silly semantics ... |
Anonymous
Of course that poster was being sarcastic, but if you can't detect the underlying message of their post, then I can't help you. |
Anonymous
Cool! Let's just ignore history and pretend we don't know why calling someone in the USA "colored" is offensive. Or maybe you're not pretending, in which case there's no hope for you. Honestly, how dumb are some of you? We learned this stuff in elementary school! Even if you didn't graduate high school, you surely made it to at least third grade! |
Anonymous
choosing to be offended by one word and not being offended by an almost identical phase is absurd, and probably the last thing the black community needs to be focusing on and worried about. |
Anonymous
We weren't discussing whether the black community should be out protesting against the use of the word "colored." On this forum, we were discussing whether referring to someone as "colored" in the United States of America in the year 2009 is offensive. It is. End of discussion. I'm honestly wondering how many people didn't pay attention in school. No word or phrase would be offensive if there weren't a history behind it that made it such. Is being called Oriental or colored on the forefront of the minds of Asians and black people in America? No. But should we go around in the USA calling black people "coloreds" or Asian people "Orientals"? The answer to that is also no. For people who use these words (and aren't 80 years old), how do you say it? Do you go home after work and say "There's a new colored girl in the office, but she's very articulate."? or "I met Suzie's newest friend at daycare, she's Oriental but cute nonetheless."? I'm really wondering. The only people I could imagine using either word are very old people. Are there really educated Americans in their 20's, 30's, and 40's calling people Oriental and colored? Maybe I just live in a nice area where people don't say such stupid things, at least not in public. |
Anonymous
| well said pp. |
Anonymous
You are a better person than I am. I would come out swinging at someone who said something like women don't belong in the workforce. The fight would probably end he relationship. Also, society sends so many subtle messages to our daughters about what they should and shouldn't, can and can't do - I would worry about how that message would sink in if mouthed by Uncle John or Grandpa Jim, even if I politely, directly countered his argument. As our daughters get older and realize we don't know everything, and sometimes we are wrong, the bigoted ideas mouthed by others take on more weight. I don't think I'd want my child around people spewing ugly rhetoric of whatever stripe..... if I can avoid it. I once broke up with a boyfriend because he and his dad had a nasty political fight at the Thanksgiving dinner table. All I could see in my mind was the high chair next to me. There was NO way I was going to be a part of that family.... (yes there were other issues but that is the ah-ha moment). |
Anonymous
| I can sympathize. |