New Royal Question - What Will Happen to Camilla?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

So? Legally she is the Princess of Wales. Full stop. But I’ve never, not once, seen her referred to by that title anywhere. State documents, magazine press pieces, introductions - it’s always Duchess of Cornwall.

Charles set the precedence here and if he didn’t want it, he shouldn’t have had a decade-long war with his first wife that left Camilla hated.

Charles was trapped between two generations. Had he been born a generation earlier or a generation later things would have been very different. But no one was innocent here either. Diana was naive and stupid and emotionally unstable and expected too much and also deliberately manipulated the PR game to favour herself. And died because she was hanging out with a drug-addled playboy boyfriend.

At the time of Charles' engagement to Camilla, Diana was still alive and that is why the princess consort was floated to keep the frothing jaws of public opinion at bay. But those jaws are no longer there. That's why, as another poster pointed out, all references to princess consort have been removed from the royal websites.

Diana died in 1997. Charles got married in 2005. He was never ‘engaged’ to Camilla during her lifetime and certainly not for over eight years.

If anyone opposed his marriage to his mistress it was his own grandmother, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother. He waited until she died to move forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh. Charles will be well into his dotage when he takes the throne. Does anyone care what Camilla will be called? I'm more interested in seeing the Cambridges there.

I doubt William will be Prince of Wales before he turns 50. If anything he’s in a worse off position than his father. At least Charles got all the titles and lands at 20.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Charles will be well into his dotage when he takes the throne. Does anyone care what Camilla will be called? I'm more interested in seeing the Cambridges there.

I doubt William will be Prince of Wales before he turns 50. If anything he’s in a worse off position than his father. At least Charles got all the titles and lands at 20.

William also doesn't want the work that comes with PoW, I suspect. He won't do anything revolutionary with the position like his father with the Prince's Trust.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Charles will be well into his dotage when he takes the throne. Does anyone care what Camilla will be called? I'm more interested in seeing the Cambridges there.

I doubt William will be Prince of Wales before he turns 50. If anything he’s in a worse off position than his father. At least Charles got all the titles and lands at 20.

William also doesn't want the work that comes with PoW, I suspect. He won't do anything revolutionary with the position like his father with the Prince's Trust.

That's quite possible. But since he's not allowed to do it now, it's hard to know.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Charles will be well into his dotage when he takes the throne. Does anyone care what Camilla will be called? I'm more interested in seeing the Cambridges there.

I doubt William will be Prince of Wales before he turns 50. If anything he’s in a worse off position than his father. At least Charles got all the titles and lands at 20.

William also doesn't want the work that comes with PoW, I suspect. He won't do anything revolutionary with the position like his father with the Prince's Trust.

That's quite possible. But since he's not allowed to do it now, it's hard to know.

Allowed?

He's more than allowed to do work now. He's expected. Charles founded the Princes Trust when he was 28. Prince Harry started two foundations - Sentebale and Invictus Games - with global appeal and results when he was just 21 and 29.

There's nothing stopping William from getting out there except self-interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Yes, but she didn't live - hence her memory being raised to almost angel status and every year on her death (especially the 20th anniversary) being a pain in Charles' side.

For the title, William was on the record as saying he'd restore his mother's title as King. Whether he will or not when he takes the throne at 50 - only he can say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Yes, but she didn't live - hence her memory being raised to almost angel status and every year on her death (especially the 20th anniversary) being a pain in Charles' side.

For the title, William was on the record as saying he'd restore his mother's title as King. Whether he will or not when he takes the throne at 50 - only he can say.

You think that William will be King at 50? I bet Charles will live to the same age or beyond his parents, Philip is 97 and counting and the Queen is turning 93 in a few months. It's conceivable that when William is 50 that Charles will just have ascended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Diana is the mom of the future king. She will never be an asterisk as long as he lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Yes, but she didn't live - hence her memory being raised to almost angel status and every year on her death (especially the 20th anniversary) being a pain in Charles' side.

For the title, William was on the record as saying he'd restore his mother's title as King. Whether he will or not when he takes the throne at 50 - only he can say.

You think that William will be King at 50? I bet Charles will live to the same age or beyond his parents, Philip is 97 and counting and the Queen is turning 93 in a few months. It's conceivable that when William is 50 that Charles will just have ascended.

Yeah, you're right. At the low end William will be King that early. More likely he's in his 70s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what it’s like for Camilla’s kids and grandkids.

They’re regular people but their mom/grandma is going to be the queen of England!

Camilla and her kids are upper class gentry and are descended from a baron. They are anything but regular people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Diana is the mom of the future king. She will never be an asterisk as long as he lives.

Diana was the ex wife of the future king. By the time Charles, the royal family will be irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I still hate Camilla. I hope wills reinstates Diana as hrh

Charles has been happily married to Camilla for almost 15 years, the same number of years he was unhappily married to Diana

If Charles dies first, Camilla will be his widow, but Diana will be nothing but his ex wife. The Royals thoroughly expunged Diana, and no grace or favor will ever be granted her, much less a title.

She still had a title at death and Diana is the only Royal still honored on the anniversary of her death date 20 years later, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

An kd expunged is a funny word for a woman who has yearly special exhibitions at the palaces and a statue going up in her honor at Kensington Palace on the 23rd anniversary of her death.

https://www.royal.uk/duke-cambridge-and-prince-harry-commission-statue-diana-princess-wales

A statue of Diana, Princess of Wales will be erected in the grounds of Kensington Palace at the request of her sons, The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

The poster suggested that Diana be reinstated with the title Her Royal Highness. All the adulation around Diana is an economic decision. She is good for the firm’s tourism business. She will never regain the hrh title nor will the royal family view her as anything but an asterisk. Had she lived, she would be treated the same way Sarah Ferguson was at her daughter’s wedding. Camilla would have center stage and Diana would be off to the side.

Highly unlikely Diana would have been a wallflower at her own sons' weddings. And in the weddings of Princess Anne's kids their biological father was the one in all the official pictures together with Anne, not her current husband.