New Royal Question - What Will Happen to Camilla?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

So? Legally she is the Princess of Wales. Full stop. But I’ve never, not once, seen her referred to by that title anywhere. State documents, magazine press pieces, introductions - it’s always Duchess of Cornwall.

Charles set the precedence here and if he didn’t want it, he shouldn’t have had a decade-long war with his first wife that left Camilla hated.

Charles was trapped between two generations. Had he been born a generation earlier or a generation later things would have been very different. But no one was innocent here either. Diana was naive and stupid and emotionally unstable and expected too much and also deliberately manipulated the PR game to favour herself. And died because she was hanging out with a drug-addled playboy boyfriend.

At the time of Charles' engagement to Camilla, Diana was still alive and that is why the princess consort was floated to keep the frothing jaws of public opinion at bay. But those jaws are no longer there. That's why, as another poster pointed out, all references to princess consort have been removed from the royal websites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Camilla would have a lot of nerve expecting to still have titles and royal engagements and things if Charles dies before her, wouldn’t she?? She’s only tolerated because people have no choice.

Camilla's titles are for life. She is a member of the royal family and would be even after Charles' death as the widow of the heir to the throne or King. She is tolerated because she is the wife of the heir to the throne. Just like they all are. Just like Kate is. The "people" don't have a choice in the matter.

As an elderly widow it's likely she would carry out minimal royal engagements. Up to her, really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Charles becomes King, Camilla will adopt the title of Princess Consort.

What will happen to her if Charles is to die first? The last time we had a King, his wife - Queen Elizabeth - received the title Queen Mother and still had a prominent role within the royal family because she was the mother of the new Queen. What will happen to Camilla if Charles were to die first and William ascends to the throne? I can't imagine her receiving a special title like Queen Mother. Will she be given an apartment at Clarence House? Will she still do engagements on behalf of the royal family? Will they banish her to Highgrove and she will become a private citizen who no longer appears with the Royal Family?

Who knows what the private arrangements are for Camilla should Charles predecease her. I daresay it does depend to a degree on whether Charles ascends the throne first or not. Highgrove is his personal possession and for him to leave as he wishes but Camilla is no slouch in this department and has her own assets. She will certainly receive a Grace and Favour property somewhere. An apartment in one of the London palaces and an allowance. As for royal engagements she will probably continue to carry out some as she wishes, she will have her favourite patronages but the older she gets the more she will probably scale back. She will always be a member of the royal family barring a divorce (not gotta happen) and will always appear with them as much as she wants to.

Not everyone dislikes Camilla.

[Anonymous]

honestly, why do people care? esp americans? These are just rich people - why are they more interesting if they had queen victoria as an ancestor? i don't really "get" the royal thing . . . whatever "happens" to camilla, she will be loaded and have a very comfortable life, whatever her title is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

So? Legally she is the Princess of Wales. Full stop. But I’ve never, not once, seen her referred to by that title anywhere. State documents, magazine press pieces, introductions - it’s always Duchess of Cornwall.

Charles set the precedence here and if he didn’t want it, he shouldn’t have had a decade-long war with his first wife that left Camilla hated.

Charles was trapped between two generations. Had he been born a generation earlier or a generation later things would have been very different. But no one was innocent here either. Diana was naive and stupid and emotionally unstable and expected too much and also deliberately manipulated the PR game to favour herself. And died because she was hanging out with a drug-addled playboy boyfriend.

At the time of Charles' engagement to Camilla, Diana was still alive and that is why the princess consort was floated to keep the frothing jaws of public opinion at bay. But those jaws are no longer there. That's why, as another poster pointed out, all references to princess consort have been removed from the royal websites.

Diana died in 1997 while Charles and Camilla became engaged in 2005, married that same year. Diana's death put their marriage plans on hold for several years but they were not officially engaged. The Duchess of Cornwall tiled usage was an acknowledgment of how closely people associated Diana with the Princess of Wales title. I'd bet a lot that Charles will make Camilla Queen Consort when he ascends. Diana was never Queen Consort and William and Kate will take the Prince/Princess of Wales title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

NP. Camilla is legally the Princess of Wales and she would legally be Queen Consort once Charles is king. I read that the main reason she is not known as the PoW is because that title was strongly associated with Diana, and it had only been a few years after Diana’s death that Charles and Camilla got married so emotions were still pretty raw. But Diana was obviously not a Queen so that title was not associated with her in any way, plus it will have been many years post Diana’s death if/when Charles gets to be king and as someone else noted the tide of public opinion has shifted quite a bit.

So? Legally she is the Princess of Wales. Full stop. But I’ve never, not once, seen her referred to by that title anywhere. State documents, magazine press pieces, introductions - it’s always Duchess of Cornwall.

Charles set the precedence here and if he didn’t want it, he shouldn’t have had a decade-long war with his first wife that left Camilla hated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:honestly, why do people care? esp americans? These are just rich people - why are they more interesting if they had queen victoria as an ancestor? i don't really "get" the royal thing . . . whatever "happens" to camilla, she will be loaded and have a very comfortable life, whatever her title is.

Different people have different interests. When people are interested in different things than you, that doesn't mean they're wrong when they are interested in things that seem uninteresting to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

But what if QEII dies tomorrow and Charles becomes King Charles. He will make Camilla Queen Camilla. If he dies a year into his reign, will Camilla remain Queen Camilla or will they make her give up that title?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:honestly, why do people care? esp americans? These are just rich people - why are they more interesting if they had queen victoria as an ancestor? i don't really "get" the royal thing . . . whatever "happens" to camilla, she will be loaded and have a very comfortable life, whatever her title is.

Different people have different interests. When people are interested in different things than you, that doesn't mean they're wrong when they are interested in things that seem uninteresting to you.

I also think because the BRF has no political power, it can be a fun indulgence.

[Anonymous]

I wonder what it’s like for Camilla’s kids and grandkids.

They’re regular people but their mom/grandma is going to be the queen of England!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

But what if QEII dies tomorrow and Charles becomes King Charles. He will make Camilla Queen Camilla. If he dies a year into his reign, will Camilla remain Queen Camilla or will they make her give up that title?

No she’ll be a dowager Queen consort

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel kind of bad for Charles. He has been in the wings for 70 years. Why doesn’t Elizabeth step down already??

It should go straight to William. It’s the best thing for the monarchy, and the country.

Because that does not happen with the British monarchy. It's for life. One exception, obviously.

Camilla will most likely become Queen Camilla should she still be alive when Charles ascends the throne. He always wanted her to be Queen and only came up with the Princess Consort as a sop to people still angry over Diana. But it's been ages now and Britain has moved on and Diana is increasingly if not forgotten except among her passionate rabid fans. Even at the time it was quietly known the Princess Consort was only a temporary promise. The reality is that even if called Princess Consort, legally Camilla would be Queen consort.

If Charles dies before his mother, then Camilla will remain HRH Duchess of Cornwall.

But what if QEII dies tomorrow and Charles becomes King Charles. He will make Camilla Queen Camilla. If he dies a year into his reign, will Camilla remain Queen Camilla or will they make her give up that title?

No she’ll be a dowager Queen consort

And she will retain her status of Her Majesty, just like the Queen Mother (Elizabeth) did, and previous Queen Consorts (Queen Mary, Alexandra, etc.)

[Anonymous]

Meh. Charles will be well into his dotage when he takes the throne. Does anyone care what Camilla will be called? I'm more interested in seeing the Cambridges there.

[Anonymous]

I think Camilla will go before Charles- she was a notoriously heavy smoker for many years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:honestly, why do people care? esp americans? These are just rich people - why are they more interesting if they had queen victoria as an ancestor? i don't really "get" the royal thing . . . whatever "happens" to camilla, she will be loaded and have a very comfortable life, whatever her title is.

Why do people deress up for medieval fairs? Or following professional athletes or teams in other countries? People have their own unique interests. You don’t need to understand or judge them.