Seneca Valley Boundary Study

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Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.


How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?


https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx


I dunno, seems like a straight-forward geographical argument to me. Anyway, they will figure out their strategy; my neighborhood needs to be clear about our options.

I see, thanks! I am sure Darnestown and Little Bennet are lawyering up, and some other ES districts will be pushing hard to stay in NW and CL.


Maybe they can hire the lawyers who are working on the lawsuit for the MS magnet admissions process for the parents from Potomac.
Anonymous
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I dunno, seems like a straight-forward geographical argument to me. Anyway, they will figure out their strategy; my neighborhood needs to be clear about our options.



Anyone can sue about anything. But anybody who pays a lawyer to sue on grounds that the BoE made a decision that was not solely based on geography, when it's explicitly set out that geography is only 1 of 4 factors, is throwing money down a hole.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.


How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?


https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx


I see, thanks! I am sure Darnestown and Little Bennet are lawyering up, and some other ES districts will be pushing hard to stay in NW and CL.


What would be illegal here? As residents of Montgomery County, they're entitled to public schools somewhere within the county, and if that happens to be far from their home, they're entitled to school bus rides there and back. The elected BOE members can set the boundaries however they choose.

Still don't think that option is going to be selected, but there's really nothing to "lawyer up" about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I dunno, seems like a straight-forward geographical argument to me. Anyway, they will figure out their strategy; my neighborhood needs to be clear about our options.



Anyone can sue about anything. But anybody who pays a lawyer to sue on grounds that the BoE made a decision that was not solely based on geography, when it's explicitly set out that geography is only 1 of 4 factors, is throwing money down a hole.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf


DP. Yes the 4 factors must be considered but the solution has to solve the problem. Let's look at the objective of this initiative. It's not to even out demographics.
Anonymous
Option 4 looks best to me overall. The distances busses would need to travel is very manageable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Option 4 looks best to me overall. The distances busses would need to travel is very manageable.

Clearly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I dunno, seems like a straight-forward geographical argument to me. Anyway, they will figure out their strategy; my neighborhood needs to be clear about our options.



Anyone can sue about anything. But anybody who pays a lawyer to sue on grounds that the BoE made a decision that was not solely based on geography, when it's explicitly set out that geography is only 1 of 4 factors, is throwing money down a hole.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf


DP. Yes the 4 factors must be considered but the solution has to solve the problem. Let's look at the objective of this initiative. It's not to even out demographics.


Demographics, like geography, is one of the four factors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

What would be illegal here? As residents of Montgomery County, they're entitled to public schools somewhere within the county, and if that happens to be far from their home, they're entitled to school bus rides there and back. The elected BOE members can set the boundaries however they choose.

Still don't think that option is going to be selected, but there's really nothing to "lawyer up" about.


They can set the boundaries however they choose, as long as they're not arbitrary or capricious. Which they're not, as long as they follow the process.
Anonymous
I'm actually surprised at the restraint shown here. Unless #4 happens it won't be a huge change. I would've assumed they would have tried to "balance demographics" the way they did with BCC MS#2 initially.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm actually surprised at the restraint shown here. Unless #4 happens it won't be a huge change. I would've assumed they would have tried to "balance demographics" the way they did with BCC MS#2 initially.


Option #4 is strictly demographics, and at the first meeting they stated that there would be one option for each criteria and then a few options combining criteria. Option #4 simply stated “How can I get the best demographic makeup using the schools in the study, and still see some overcrowding relief”. So, Little Bennett and Darnestown. It’s important to note that this option also leaves many open seats at SVHS, even after 5 years. Meanwhile, Clarksburg would still have a large overcrowding issue to solve and NWHS would address their issues with an already approved HS to be built in Crown Farm.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm actually surprised at the restraint shown here. Unless #4 happens it won't be a huge change. I would've assumed they would have tried to "balance demographics" the way they did with BCC MS#2 initially.


Option #4 is strictly demographics, and at the first meeting they stated that there would be one option for each criteria and then a few options combining criteria. Option #4 simply stated “How can I get the best demographic makeup using the schools in the study, and still see some overcrowding relief”. So, Little Bennett and Darnestown. It’s important to note that this option also leaves many open seats at SVHS, even after 5 years. Meanwhile, Clarksburg would still have a large overcrowding issue to solve and NWHS would address their issues with an already approved HS to be built in Crown Farm.


+100. Option 4 is the worst solution for CHS. Let's not forget the actual problem.
Anonymous
This is from the Student Assignment in Elementary and Secondary Schools & Title VI policy at Ed.gov (https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/tviassgn.html):

Assignment to School

School districts may not segregate students on the basis of race, color, or national origin in assigning students to schools. In some areas, the population distribution of a school district enrolling large numbers of minority and nonminority students may result in schools with substantially disproportionate enrollments of students of one race. Although school districts must ensure that students are not assigned on the basis of race, color, or national origin, the law does not require that each school within a district have a racially balanced student population.

Do you guys think this policy makes it illegal for MCPS to use demographics as a criteria for deciding school boundaries?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm actually surprised at the restraint shown here. Unless #4 happens it won't be a huge change. I would've assumed they would have tried to "balance demographics" the way they did with BCC MS#2 initially.


4 is not a huge change in terms of demographics. It's a change for the people who would be rezoned from Northwest to Seneca Valley, but that goes for all of the other people who would be rezoned in any of the options too, by definition.

It's 5-6 miles from Darnestown ES to Northwest HS, compared to 7 miles from Darnestown ES to Seneca Valley HS. That's also not a huge change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.


How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?


https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx


I see, thanks! I am sure Darnestown and Little Bennet are lawyering up, and some other ES districts will be pushing hard to stay in NW and CL.


What would be illegal here? As residents of Montgomery County, they're entitled to public schools somewhere within the county, and if that happens to be far from their home, they're entitled to school bus rides there and back. The elected BOE members can set the boundaries however they choose.

Still don't think that option is going to be selected, but there's really nothing to "lawyer up" about.


Not true which is why bussing is illegal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is from the Student Assignment in Elementary and Secondary Schools & Title VI policy at Ed.gov (https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/tviassgn.html):

Assignment to School

School districts may not segregate students on the basis of race, color, or national origin in assigning students to schools. In some areas, the population distribution of a school district enrolling large numbers of minority and nonminority students may result in schools with substantially disproportionate enrollments of students of one race. Although school districts must ensure that students are not assigned on the basis of race, color, or national origin, the law does not require that each school within a district have a racially balanced student population.

Do you guys think this policy makes it illegal for MCPS to use demographics as a criteria for deciding school boundaries?


If they were using it to segregate schools, then yes.

But since MCPS is using it to desegregate schools, then no.
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