Seneca Valley Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How likely is the BOE to ultimately throw away all the maps and reassign schools based on some 8th scheme, involving schools not currently included in the discussions?

Basically zero. The scope of the boundary study is defined: the high schools and middle schools in the Clarksburg, Seneca Valley, and Northwest clusters.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/SVHS_BOEAdoptedBoundaryStudy.pdf

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How likely is the BOE to ultimately throw away all the maps and reassign schools based on some 8th scheme, involving schools not currently included in the discussions?

Basically zero. The scope of the boundary study is defined: the high schools and middle schools in the Clarksburg, Seneca Valley, and Northwest clusters.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/SVHS_BOEAdoptedBoundaryStudy.pdf

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.

I will point out that the boundary study is not about reassigning schools from Clarksburg and Northwest to Seneca Valley. It's about assigning all of the schools in all 3 clusters to one of the high schools. Schools may be reassigned from Seneca Valley to Northwest, or from Northwest to Clarksburg, or from Clarksburg to Northwest, or...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How likely is the BOE to ultimately throw away all the maps and reassign schools based on some 8th scheme, involving schools not currently included in the discussions?

Basically zero. The scope of the boundary study is defined: the high schools and middle schools in the Clarksburg, Seneca Valley, and Northwest clusters.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/SVHS_BOEAdoptedBoundaryStudy.pdf

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

Someone who went last night said that yes, that can happen. I’m going tonight to hear the whole presentation.

[Anonymous]

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There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

I was there last night. There are some schools that are not going to be reassigned depending on their location. For example, Clarksburg ES will not be reassigned out of CHS because CHS is in the Clarksburg ES service area. Following this rule, the ES service area in which Northwest HS sits in will not be reassigned out of Northwest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

I was there last night. There are some schools that are not going to be reassigned depending on their location. For example, Clarksburg ES will not be reassigned out of CHS because CHS is in the Clarksburg ES service area. Following this rule, the ES service area in which Northwest HS sits in will not be reassigned out of Northwest.

No, because options 3, 5a, and 6 reassign part of Matsunaga ES (the "island") to Seneca Valley.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/MatsunagaES.pdf

Which, in my opinion, makes total sense geographically, since these kids live literally across the street from Seneca Valley HS. But geography is only one of the 4 factors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Option 4 is interesting ... I know people are resistant to change and are all OMG Seneca Valley - No! But, Seneca Valley is going to double in size and add a bunch of new, interesting programs, in addition to its IB program. It's going to be a different school for sure.

Anyway - I think this process is so complex that if people think their wishes will be listened to, well, someone else has different wishes. And with Crown in the wings and the eventual information from the outside consultant, we will be addressing the broader boundary/school utilization/school construction problem for the next 10 years at least. So the results here will just be the current adjustment, to keep us going for a while longer.

Won't be happening. It breaks the geography factor and doesn't meet the utilization goals. And whether we like it or not, the biggest issue here is overcrowding. At least NW will have Crown as a relief in the future but CHS won't have that. And with the ongoing development at Clarksburg, providing the needed capacity at CHS is going to be a huge criteria for MCPS. Due to land use CHS cannot expand its building anymore so there needs to be a viable solution. I think demographics should take a back seat on this one.

What does this mean? Clarksburg High School is on 63 acres. Subtract a few acres for the forest conservation easements, and that still leaves a whole lot of land. And while there's an argument that you only want high schools to be so big, the current capacity is 2,038, Northwest HS current capacity is 2,241, and they're building Seneca Valley HS for 2,500.

On the other hand, 20 years from now, Clarksburg HS will likely be UNDERenrolled...

Ok ya, sure. 20 yrs from now it will be UNDERenrolled. Cool story bro.
Onto real news..the answer is yes, CHS cannot have an expansion. Was there at the meeting last night and they made that clear. So to address overcrowding at CHS, either they build another upcounty HS or do another expansion at one of the other high schools in upcounty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

me either. particularly after they re-do boundaries - Seneca Valley will be just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option 4 is interesting ... I know people are resistant to change and are all OMG Seneca Valley - No! But, Seneca Valley is going to double in size and add a bunch of new, interesting programs, in addition to its IB program. It's going to be a different school for sure.

Anyway - I think this process is so complex that if people think their wishes will be listened to, well, someone else has different wishes. And with Crown in the wings and the eventual information from the outside consultant, we will be addressing the broader boundary/school utilization/school construction problem for the next 10 years at least. So the results here will just be the current adjustment, to keep us going for a while longer.

Won't be happening. It breaks the geography factor and doesn't meet the utilization goals. And whether we like it or not, the biggest issue here is overcrowding. At least NW will have Crown as a relief in the future but CHS won't have that. And with the ongoing development at Clarksburg, providing the needed capacity at CHS is going to be a huge criteria for MCPS. Due to land use CHS cannot expand its building anymore so there needs to be a viable solution. I think demographics should take a back seat on this one.

What does this mean? Clarksburg High School is on 63 acres. Subtract a few acres for the forest conservation easements, and that still leaves a whole lot of land. And while there's an argument that you only want high schools to be so big, the current capacity is 2,038, Northwest HS current capacity is 2,241, and they're building Seneca Valley HS for 2,500.

On the other hand, 20 years from now, Clarksburg HS will likely be UNDERenrolled...

Ok ya, sure. 20 yrs from now it will be UNDERenrolled. Cool story bro.
Onto real news..the answer is yes, CHS cannot have an expansion. Was there at the meeting last night and they made that clear. So to address overcrowding at CHS, either they build another upcounty HS or do another expansion at one of the other high schools in upcounty.

Did they say why?

And yes, it will be underenrolled. Lots of people moving to Clarksburg now with kids in school. 20 years from now, they'll still be living there, but the kids won't be in school anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

me either. particularly after they re-do boundaries - Seneca Valley will be just fine.

I actually know a couple of parents at SVHS who were hoping to be reassigned out of that HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is a number of elementary schools in the scope of the study that are not included into the 7 maps presented. Can those elementary schools still be reassigned to Seneca Valley, in a last-minute surprise move by the BOE?

I don't understand this fear of Seneca Valley HS.

me either. particularly after they re-do boundaries - Seneca Valley will be just fine.

I actually know a couple of parents at SVHS who were hoping to be reassigned out of that HS.

Ok, and...?

[Anonymous]

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.

How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.

How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.

How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx

I see, thanks! I am sure Darnestown and Little Bennet are lawyering up, and some other ES districts will be pushing hard to stay in NW and CL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Are you asking - can the BoE choose an option within the scope of the boundary study that is not included in this list? The answer to that question is yes. They could tell MCPS that they don't like any of these options and ask MCPS to come up with some additional options. Everybody would then have the opportunity to comment on the additional options.

How would constituents / parents know if the BOE has requested additional options from MCPS? What notification system would be used?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/UpcountyHSBoundaryStudy.aspx

I see, thanks! I am sure Darnestown and Little Bennet are lawyering up, and some other ES districts will be pushing hard to stay in NW and CL.

Maybe they can hire the lawyers who are working on the lawsuit for the MS magnet admissions process for the parents from Potomac.