Do you know any men who have given up career goals it education to be with a woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's more of a challenge for men, since they are judged on their careers more than women.

Meh...not so much anymore. The SJWs are working overtime to flip the script here, so before long men will be little boys again and the women will do all the heavy lifting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more of a challenge for men, since they are judged on their careers more than women.

Meh...not so much anymore. The SJWs are working overtime to flip the script here, so before long men will be little boys again and the women will do all the heavy lifting.

and then they will complain that all the real men have gone. Self-fulfilling prophecy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men make careers FOR FAMILY (Women and Children). It is something we are forced into doing because of systemic social pressure that push us into being providers. Who benefits from the career? The SAHM and kids. Who dies 5 - 10 years younger because of it - men. Who are more likely to die due to job related accidents - men.

Your question is based on a false premise that careers are things every person should want or seek equally.

You could just as easily ask the question: How many men do you know that gave up personal goals to be with a woman? Answer is every married man that works a full time job. Each one of us would prefer to be doing something else but we work so our wives can do what they want at home (take piano lessons, paint, volunteer, spend time with kids, go to mommy's day out with friends). Us working is a gift to women.

Oh yeah? What’s the excuse for the 70% of marriages where both spouses work full time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men make careers FOR FAMILY (Women and Children). It is something we are forced into doing because of systemic social pressure that push us into being providers. Who benefits from the career? The SAHM and kids. Who dies 5 - 10 years younger because of it - men. Who are more likely to die due to job related accidents - men.

Your question is based on a false premise that careers are things every person should want or seek equally.

You could just as easily ask the question: How many men do you know that gave up personal goals to be with a woman? Answer is every married man that works a full time job. Each one of us would prefer to be doing something else but we work so our wives can do what they want at home (take piano lessons, paint, volunteer, spend time with kids, go to mommy's day out with friends). Us working is a gift to women.

Oh yeah? What’s the excuse for the 70% of marriages where both spouses work full time?[/quote]

1. Woman did not want to stay home (i.e., she isn't willing to put kids first)
2. Woman didn't chose a high-status man who has a good job.
3. They don't have their budge under control so need two incomes.

Either way, you are comparing apples and oranges. Even if 70% (no evidence provided) of households are two income houses, my point is that the majority of households (two and single incomes) the man is the one with the primary bread-winning responsibility. It is the minority of households where there man simply doesn't work. Men work because society and wives expect them to. Even the two income households women expect men to work.

Men would much rather do other things with their time. I work but I would much rather spend my time doing the mans equivalent of yoga classes followed by starbucks and then waiting for the kids to get home from school. Society and my wife; however, would not be happy if I did that.

It is a strawman argument to ask how many men "give up their career for a woman" because to get the typical woman a man is required to do the opposite (i.e., women want employed men with well paying jobs in order to provide security for them to have babies).

It is toxic femininity and systematic misandry that puts pressure on men to fulfill roles in society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men make careers FOR FAMILY (Women and Children). It is something we are forced into doing because of systemic social pressure that push us into being providers. Who benefits from the career? The SAHM and kids. Who dies 5 - 10 years younger because of it - men. Who are more likely to die due to job related accidents - men.

Your question is based on a false premise that careers are things every person should want or seek equally.

You could just as easily ask the question: How many men do you know that gave up personal goals to be with a woman? Answer is every married man that works a full time job. Each one of us would prefer to be doing something else but we work so our wives can do what they want at home (take piano lessons, paint, volunteer, spend time with kids, go to mommy's day out with friends). Us working is a gift to women.

Oh yeah? What’s the excuse for the 70% of marriages where both spouses work full time?[/quote]

1. Woman did not want to stay home (i.e., she isn't willing to put kids first)
2. Woman didn't chose a high-status man who has a good job.
3. They don't have their budge under control so need two incomes.

Either way, you are comparing apples and oranges. Even if 70% (no evidence provided) of households are two income houses, my point is that the majority of households (two and single incomes) the man is the one with the primary bread-winning responsibility. It is the minority of households where there man simply doesn't work. Men work because society and wives expect them to. Even the two income households women expect men to work.

Men would much rather do other things with their time. I work but I would much rather spend my time doing the mans equivalent of yoga classes followed by starbucks and then waiting for the kids to get home from school. Society and my wife; however, would not be happy if I did that.

It is a strawman argument to ask how many men "give up their career for a woman" because to get the typical woman a man is required to do the opposite (i.e., women want employed men with well paying jobs in order to provide security for them to have babies).

It is toxic femininity and systematic misandry that puts pressure on men to fulfill roles in society.