Everyone admitted off of CAP waitlist?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So what about the kids who were rejected outright? Why was the selection process unfair for waitlist kids and not for all kids who applied? Has anybody called to ask?


Huh? Presumably waitlist kids are deemed at least bordlerline qualified for the program. Rejected kids aren't.


My child with very high map r, parcc, grades and private school entrance exams was rejected outright. He only applied for cap. Another parent mentioned to me that kids applying for all magnet programs appeared to have more testing time for the cap test. I thought this was sour grapes, but now it makes me wonder...
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Anonymous wrote:Was this 10 kids or 50 kids?


No idea, but they are increasing from three classrooms to four, so the guess would be 25.


That would be my guess too. Wow. I'm the parent of CAP junior, and if I was the parent of a CAP freshman I think I would be pretty upset. This really threatens to swamp the program. If they don't add teachers, the four who teach the freshman CAP classes are going to be overwhelmed and have a lot less time to do careful grading and editing of papers. Not to mention the interdisciplinary events are going to take forever with 100 kids instead of 75.

You could make the CAP program work with 100 kids, but you have to build up the infrastructure to support it.





I’m the parent of an incoming 9th grader and I am a bit concerned. Hopefully there won’t actually be 100 students though. I imagine if my child had gotten in this late he would not be thrilled about the pressure to complete all of that homework during our vacation. Maybe he would’ve turned down the offer.



We are in the same situation (9th grader, accepted). I'm just concerned that the sudden influx will overburden the students.
The homework was not trivial, and it took my kids several weeks of working a little every day to finish it off. Not impossible for a newly accepted kid to get it done, but it would be a ton of work every day during the last couple weeks of summer! Sounds brutal.


This thinking is backward. Parent of a CAP senior and I'm certain she completed the Freshman homework in two weeks or less, by her choice, and first day of school everyone was talking about having been up until 4 am doing the same. Anyway, I'm sure personal requests for extra time from the students actually admitted late would be treated fairly.

The real concern is not the students, but unhappy teachers. I don't have the scuttlebutt, but no one likes to be abruptly told how a program should be run or that they have 30% more on their plate. The students admitted from the wait list are qualified or they wouldn't have been there. The numbers don't really matter, it could have been 100 students from day one. But, ramping it up on the fly is asking a lot of the people who have already dedicated so much to this program.
Anonymous
There's always attrition in the CAP program. In the past few years, there have even been kids dropping in just the first few weeks. The kids who really want to be there will do fine, whether they were original admits or latecomers from the waitlist. But if you're the parent of a kid who was pushed into it reluctantly, you might be in for some rocky times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was this 10 kids or 50 kids?


No idea, but they are increasing from three classrooms to four, so the guess would be 25.


That would be my guess too. Wow. I'm the parent of CAP junior, and if I was the parent of a CAP freshman I think I would be pretty upset. This really threatens to swamp the program. If they don't add teachers, the four who teach the freshman CAP classes are going to be overwhelmed and have a lot less time to do careful grading and editing of papers. Not to mention the interdisciplinary events are going to take forever with 100 kids instead of 75.

You could make the CAP program work with 100 kids, but you have to build up the infrastructure to support it.





I’m the parent of an incoming 9th grader and I am a bit concerned. Hopefully there won’t actually be 100 students though. I imagine if my child had gotten in this late he would not be thrilled about the pressure to complete all of that homework during our vacation. Maybe he would’ve turned down the offer.



We are in the same situation (9th grader, accepted). I'm just concerned that the sudden influx will overburden the students.
The homework was not trivial, and it took my kids several weeks of working a little every day to finish it off. Not impossible for a newly accepted kid to get it done, but it would be a ton of work every day during the last couple weeks of summer! Sounds brutal.


This thinking is backward. Parent of a CAP senior and I'm certain she completed the Freshman homework in two weeks or less, by her choice, and first day of school everyone was talking about having been up until 4 am doing the same. Anyway, I'm sure personal requests for extra time from the students actually admitted late would be treated fairly.

The real concern is not the students, but unhappy teachers. I don't have the scuttlebutt, but no one likes to be abruptly told how a program should be run or that they have 30% more on their plate. The students admitted from the wait list are qualified or they wouldn't have been there. The numbers don't really matter, it could have been 100 students from day one. But, ramping it up on the fly is asking a lot of the people who have already dedicated so much to this program.


The teachers will not suddenly get an extra class to their workload. They will either add teachers or reduce the teachers other classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was this 10 kids or 50 kids?


No idea, but they are increasing from three classrooms to four, so the guess would be 25.


That would be my guess too. Wow. I'm the parent of CAP junior, and if I was the parent of a CAP freshman I think I would be pretty upset. This really threatens to swamp the program. If they don't add teachers, the four who teach the freshman CAP classes are going to be overwhelmed and have a lot less time to do careful grading and editing of papers. Not to mention the interdisciplinary events are going to take forever with 100 kids instead of 75.

You could make the CAP program work with 100 kids, but you have to build up the infrastructure to support it.





I’m the parent of an incoming 9th grader and I am a bit concerned. Hopefully there won’t actually be 100 students though. I imagine if my child had gotten in this late he would not be thrilled about the pressure to complete all of that homework during our vacation. Maybe he would’ve turned down the offer.



We are in the same situation (9th grader, accepted). I'm just concerned that the sudden influx will overburden the students.
The homework was not trivial, and it took my kids several weeks of working a little every day to finish it off. Not impossible for a newly accepted kid to get it done, but it would be a ton of work every day during the last couple weeks of summer! Sounds brutal.


This thinking is backward. Parent of a CAP senior and I'm certain she completed the Freshman homework in two weeks or less, by her choice, and first day of school everyone was talking about having been up until 4 am doing the same. Anyway, I'm sure personal requests for extra time from the students actually admitted late would be treated fairly.

The real concern is not the students, but unhappy teachers. I don't have the scuttlebutt, but no one likes to be abruptly told how a program should be run or that they have 30% more on their plate. The students admitted from the wait list are qualified or they wouldn't have been there. The numbers don't really matter, it could have been 100 students from day one. But, ramping it up on the fly is asking a lot of the people who have already dedicated so much to this program.


The teachers will not suddenly get an extra class to their workload. They will either add teachers or reduce the teachers other classes.


Yes, this means some other class has been dropped from their work load, but it means 100 CAP students to look after. Part of the program is the attention each student gets. Adding teachers would take time to work out. The way the program works now, each student has every teacher in a rotation--there isn't any class taught by more than one teacher.
Anonymous
But before there were 3 classes of each..so now that teacher will have 4 classes of CAP instead of 3 CAP and 1 other.
Anonymous
Have 25 additional students actually accepted the spots that were offered? This seems like a lot...How many are usually on the waitlist?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But before there were 3 classes of each..so now that teacher will have 4 classes of CAP instead of 3 CAP and 1 other.


One thing CAP teachers do with their other classes is offer an elective, that CAP students take later on. This is the sort of thing that will have to go away.
Anonymous
No dog in the fight here, but isn't it great if they expanded the program?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No dog in the fight here, but isn't it great if they expanded the program?


If they increased the infrastructure for the program it would be nice. I am wondering how teachers can handle the workload associated with the big projects ( cap Hollywood, cap potus and the senior personal portfolio with 33% more students. The workload for students and teachers is heavier for CAP classes and so having CAP teachers switch a regular class for a CAP class wouldn’t be enough
Anonymous
Doubt it was expanded since Blair is severely overcrowded.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Doubt it was expanded since Blair is severely overcrowded.


Going forward it just means fewer lottery slots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No dog in the fight here, but isn't it great if they expanded the program?


As the parent of a DCC 7th grader, I think it is great!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No dog in the fight here, but isn't it great if they expanded the program?


I think so and my kid is excited to be with many of his HGC friends in the new MS enriched classes.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No dog in the fight here, but isn't it great if they expanded the program?


As the parent of a DCC 7th grader, I think it is great!


I wouldn't count on this as a permanent expansion. It might be which would be great, but it could just be a temp solution for this year only.
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