STA anti semitism expulsions

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This is an overreaction, unless they are repeat offenders.

How could you possibly say that? Schools don't expel frivolously.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it expulsions, plural??

2 freshman from what I heard - I would share other details but I have conflicting infomration from my own sons who attend the school - so I am not sure if anyone has the whole story - as a parent - I too would have liked to have heard this from the administration and not from my sons who are hearing it second and third hand.....

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Anonymous wrote:I think it would be pretty hard to screen for such a thing. And boys change between 4th grade and high school.

I think this is a case of immature boys going over the line - I would like to think they have decent parents but in a sick attempt to be "cool" or funny they blew it. I don't necessarily blame the parents

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Anonymous wrote:I think it would be pretty hard to screen for such a thing. And boys change between 4th grade and high school.

I think this is a case of immature boys going over the line - I would like to think they have decent parents but in a sick attempt to be "cool" or funny they blew it. I don't necessarily blame the parents

I think this is the most likely case. But the school was right to take action, especially because they are upper school students and should know better. I hope the parents get the boys the help they need and not try to blame the school for punishing them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, how heartbreaking for the student body that this was going on. And, what kind of kid do they admit that espouses these kinds of views. You'd think with all of the competition for spots they would be able to avoid this type of attitude.

I don’t think you understand how private schools work. Some of the STA families are third and fourth generation. Lots of wealth and privilege. You also have a number of parents who are busy professionals who have outsourced parenting. Between wealth, privilege, and neglect, it’s possible to end up with some effed up kids.

An assorted variety: kids who have never been appropriately disciplined, kids who are pushed hard to achieve their parents’ dreams, kids who have material wealth but are emotionally neglected, kids who are not a good fit for the high pressure environment.

Any of these situations can create angry, effed up kids who strike out at others.

Yeah.... and ummm, your vision of private school comes from cheesy movies, dumb sitcoms, and after school specials.

Nope, years at the Cathedral schools. You are clearly the one who has no idea of private school culture.

NP - my kids have been in private school their entire school life (one in college, one in high school now) and this has not been our experience at all. However, my kids are not at the Cathedral schools or even a so-called "Big 3". Maybe this is more of a particular school culture issue than a private school issue.

In our personal experience this can happen anywhere. When it did to us, one of the participant's parents caught wind and called us directly same day. They were mortified and nipped it in the bud. Everyone else fell in line. The school was not involved. These were little kids making a stupid mistake but they could have easily grown not understanding it as unacceptable behavior. It was a "good" grade with great parents. No school is exempt from it happening at any age.

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Just gotta love these parents who talk so poorly about St.Albans, yet they don't even have a kid there. They act like they know everything that goes on there and they get inaccurate facts about STA from parents of kids from other schools who have to put down STA, so they feel better about themselves for the schools their own children attend. If you have no relations to the school, then don't say stuff you don't know or hear from parents not associated with the school. The boy who was expelled made some mistakes and joked about an event that should never be joked about, but this boy was still a great kid. Many of the boys in his grade loved him and had known him for 11+ years.

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The fact that some parents think holocaust jokes are ok speaks volumes.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that some parents think holocaust jokes are ok speaks volumes.

They don't. How did you even come up with that statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it expulsions, plural??

2 freshman from what I heard - I would share other details but I have conflicting infomration from my own sons who attend the school - so I am not sure if anyone has the whole story - as a parent - I too would have liked to have heard this from the administration and not from my sons who are hearing it second and third hand.....

The admin may still be figuring out who (else) is involved/responsible, as well as talking with those directly affected. I suspect there will be communication with the broader community down the road...and a certainly hope it will include what steps they will take to shut down this kind of behavior going forward. This incident aside, there is a put-down culture among some of the boys that has gotten worse lately and needs to be dealt with. STA has a chance to put its money where its mouth is in terms of character education...and a responsibility to do so, given what has just happened.

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I doubt the PP was an STA parent. The grammar and sentence structure are atrocious. I suspect this is one of the expelled boy's younger friends.

This was clearly not a situation where it was just a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:So, what does this mean for the waitlist?

LOL! Thanks for the laugh. Seriously - you made my day.

Yes. Post of the day!

(And yes, I can enjoy this lighthearted moment and still be appalled by the actual behavior these kids demonstrated.)

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Anonymous wrote:Just gotta love these parents who talk so poorly about St.Albans, yet they don't even have a kid there. They act like they know everything that goes on there and they get inaccurate facts about STA from parents of kids from other schools who have to put down STA, so they feel better about themselves for the schools their own children attend. If you have no relations to the school, then don't say stuff you don't know or hear from parents not associated with the school. The boy who was expelled made some mistakes and joked about an event that should never be joked about, but this boy was still a great kid. Many of the boys in his grade loved him and had known him for 11+ years.

I freely admit I don’t know the school, but this episode makes me think more highly of the school as an organization.
I am so, so, so weary of the excuses people make.
“Mistakes?”
“Still a great kid?”
You know what, I guess he has the rest of his life to earn the moniker of “great kid/man/person.” But right now there are so very, very many things going wrong in his thinking for him to think that this is remotely acceptable.
Such action requires “shock treatment” response, or this doesn’t get fixed.
Also, it is IMPERATIVE for the rest of the school to see how unacceptable this is, and particularly for the targeted students to feel safe. People complain about someone being made “an example of.” You know what? As long as next week a kid doing the exact same thing doesn’t get different treatment/punishments, one one is being “made example of”. It’s simply a consistent application of discipline policy.

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so what we really want to know, does this open up spots for new kids?
10th grade?

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What was the joke about?

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Anonymous wrote:What was the joke about?

I don’t think there was any particular joke that was deleted. It’s just that there have been some humorous responses throughout the thread that some felt were inappropriate given the subject matter.